AsleepOnTheCeiling 6,976 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 9 hours ago, Emvee said: The annoying part is the Democrats could have released the files. They obviously had political motivations to incriminate him or at least severely damage his reputation, but it would seem like they are protecting other people on the list - whether for political, financial, personal reasons. And when I say Democrats, I mean top democrats like Nancy Pelosi who called the Epstein Files a distraction. Mike Johnson’s decision to shut down the house for the summer PROVES that there’s much more than just a distraction. Oh for sure they're protecting people. I think even assuming these people aren't all corrupt (I believe they are, at least 80% of them), I feel like they think burying this is better than releasing it all. Meaning that the people in the Epstein files gotta include top democrats. And that releasing the files would look worse for Dems than Republicans. I feel like the GOP has tapped most of it's supporters into their cult at this point, and there's not much to move the needle. But Democrats are probably more likely to stay home. And undecided/centrist Republicans will also not have much reason to go vote if the Dems are being dragged for the list. So I think to them it just politically makes sense. 6 hours ago, Monsta217 said: If Trump is toast, then there is a non-zero chance we get President Vance. And idk if thats just as bad or worse... Real question, would Vance be THAT bad? I feel he doesn't have the charisma to unite the Republican factions, nor the political power (ie diplomacy and buy-in of the public or politicians) to pull off what Trump has so far. I think the party would be far more likely to fracture, and all the sudden GOP would need to back down. Trump being taken out of office would be the absolute best thing that can happen imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterPaws 2,745 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 10 hours ago, TSUNAMI said: Nothing would happen even if they're released. Sad but true. The fact that Tr*mp was ever re-elected is proof none of this all matters. America--and the world really--is a mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
banjosnap 368 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 The democrats couldn't have released the files due to ongoing Ghislane Maxwell case. It would give her an opportunity to win an appeal. Now that case is done, we are free to release them.. Wonder how many more witnesses will die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoresup 3,429 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 I don’t really remember the details but remember in the presidential run 2016 when he exposed some email scandal about Hilary Clinton and it really damaged her? This is way worse and guess what he’s untouched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOT 3,614 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 7 hours ago, Monsta217 said: If Trump is toast, then there is a non-zero chance we get President Vance. And idk if thats just as bad or worse... Agreed. We get Vance, but we don't know what he'd be like. Don't forget it's not that long since he was denouncing Trump as a nazi, but he pivoted from that because he calculated that it would help him become President. Once he gets his ass in the hot seat he may pivot in a different direction. Trump is basically just a criminal, and he is also clearly sick in the head. Vance on the other hand is more of a bog-standard weasel politician. There won't ever be a JD Vance cult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monsta217 584 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 2 hours ago, AsleepOnTheCeiling said: Real question, would Vance be THAT bad? I feel he doesn't have the charisma to unite the Republican factions, nor the political power (ie diplomacy and buy-in of the public or politicians) to pull off what Trump has so far. I think the party would be far more likely to fracture, and all the sudden GOP would need to back down. Trump being taken out of office would be the absolute best thing that can happen imo. Vance had a big role in the creation of Project 2025, he doesnt need to unite the party, he just needs to stick to the manual they all made. And Trump's antics also make it so he wastes a lot of time and alienates a lot of people with his bs and constant crossing the line, Vance could be a lot more careful, less noisy, but more focused on passing P2025 stuff. I dont know, we cant say for sure, but I wouldnt trust that if Trump was taken out of office, things would be better with Vance. I could eat a slice of your zombie pie… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petie Estie 5,707 Posted July 24, 2025 Share Posted July 24, 2025 it's weird to read a headline that basically means the president is ****ing kids and have no reaction bc I know it won't matter. Call your therapist...it's Petie Estie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 12,402 Posted July 25, 2025 Share Posted July 25, 2025 On 7/23/2025 at 11:54 PM, banjosnap said: The democrats couldn't have released the files due to ongoing Ghislane Maxwell case. It would give her an opportunity to win an appeal. Now that case is done, we are free to release them.. Wonder how many more witnesses will die. lol she just met with Dumpy's DOJ and returned to prison with a box of files after their meeting looks like she's def being given whatever she needs to win wouldnt be surprised theres a cell phone in there for her either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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