JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 8:36 AM, Florin said: And yet the number of deaths is lower and lower. So something has changed for the good. What? Probably treatments like plasma tranfussions. But we still don't know exactly what it does to the body. There is irreparable damage to organs and blood clots in alot of recovery cases. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 5:19 AM, Florin said: What are your points? That 2 weeks later the headlines are the same? And they are similar to headlines from 2018? The US is now at 59,316 Covid hospitalizations. The record was set on April 15 at 59,538. We are very close to setting a new record. Reopening has increased Covid hospitalizations to high numbers again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webb7 438 Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 Today's going to be the highest death toll overall in at least a month. India doing 1.2K Brazil also doing 1.2K to 1.5K USA likely 1K+ Mexico already did 1K when it updated for today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 47 minutes ago, Whispering said: The US is now at 59,316 Covid hospitalizations. The record was set on April 15 at 59,538. We are very close to setting a new record. Reopening has increased Covid hospitalizations to high numbers again. Close again then and keep it closed forever I guess. And of course ignore again all the effects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, Florin said: Close again then and keep it closed forever I guess. And of course ignore again all the effects. Closing forever was never an option, and you know it. No one is ignoring the effects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTSTOP 3,154 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 3:05 PM, Florin said: @Morphine Prince so official data is not important for you? Daily new cases 50,000 +87% Daily new deaths 490 -28% Source :new york times But congratulations. Be proud for being uninformed. You know symptoms only start to show 7-14 days after infection, and then it takes like 14-21 days for it to turn into a death or be cured? So you should compare the infection rate from now to the death rate of next month... IDGAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 10 hours ago, HEARTSTOP said: You know symptoms only start to show 7-14 days after infection, and then it takes like 14-21 days for it to turn into a death or be cured? So you should compare the infection rate from now to the death rate of next month... You dont get it no? We were talking about confirmed cases. A case confirmed in june 15 would have been solved or it would have resulted in a death before July 7, when I originally made my comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 10 hours ago, Whispering said: Closing forever was never an option, and you know it. No one is ignoring the effects. Closing for one year then? 2 years? You dont get it, no? It doesnt take "forever" to create those effects that yea, you are ignoring. U talked about "reopening" as the reason for the increase, which implies that "reopening" is bad. Tell us what was the good strategy, considering that even California reopening didnt work. Tell us the solution. I'm sure that every country in the world wants it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 42 minutes ago, Florin said: Closing for one year then? 2 years? You dont get it, no? It doesnt take "forever" to create those effects that yea, you are ignoring. U talked about "reopening" as the reason for the increase, which implies that "reopening" is bad. Tell us what was the good strategy, considering that even California reopening didnt work. Tell us the solution. I'm sure that every country in the world wants it. Reopening too fast was bad. Reopening places like indoor dining, gyms and bars too fast. Following the CDC guidelines would have saved lives. States didn’t do that. They opened without following the two week between stages guidelines. Everyone wearing masks, Social Distancing, Washing hands, following the CDC guidelines for reopening, contact tracing, quarantines for those exposed. The countries that are following these basic protocols are getting to open up and keeping their hospitalizations and deaths down. You don’t live in the US, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTSTOP 3,154 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Florin said: You dont get it no? We were talking about confirmed cases. A case confirmed in june 15 would have been solved or it would have resulted in a death before July 7, when I originally made my comment. You were comparing the rate of new cases to the rate of new deaths, which in no way relates to what you're mentioning now. And yes, reopening is bad if your population is not controlled enough and educated on how to reopen. The "freedom" of the US is costing them lives, and will cost much more. But it's fine, since the country runs on pure capitalism, and the lower classes will always be viewed as just numbers on an underpayed employee board. The money will stay on the same hands it did before. IDGAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bt1 5,213 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, HEARTSTOP said: You were comparing the rate of new cases to the rate of new deaths, which in no way relates to what you're mentioning now. And yes, reopening is bad if your population is not controlled enough and educated on how to reopen. The "freedom" of the US is costing them lives, and will cost much more. But it's fine, since the country runs on pure capitalism, and the lower classes will always be viewed as just numbers on an underpayed employee board. The money will stay on the same hands it did before. I was comparing trends. What I've said was true 2 weeks ago and even today if u look at the proportion of deaths and compare it to what was happening in march, u can clearly see that some things are different. U should inform yourself. No one had tougher restrictions than California. In LA they had mandatory masks outside and the cases still increased. It's not about "freedom" or political things. No one can control a flu-like virus that in most cases doesnt show symptoms without a vaccine or until the virus gets weaker by itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Whispering said: Reopening too fast was bad. Reopening places like indoor dining, gyms and bars too fast. Following the CDC guidelines would have saved lives. States didn’t do that. They opened without following the two week between stages guidelines. Everyone wearing masks, Social Distancing, Washing hands, following the CDC guidelines for reopening, contact tracing, quarantines for those exposed. The countries that are following these basic protocols are getting to open up and keeping their hospitalizations and deaths down. You don’t live in the US, right? California has reopened too fast? didnt they respected every possible rule? What about the states who never closed or opened sooner than California, Florida and Texas and that are fine? Stop cherry picking states, while ignoring the other states or countries who show how wrong you are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 @Whispering Take another study that says "no" to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTSTOP 3,154 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Florin said: California has reopened too fast? didnt they respected every possible rule? What about the states who never closed or opened sooner than California, Florida and Texas and that are fine? Stop cherry picking states, while ignoring the other states or countries who show how wrong you are. I wouldn't call constant protesting (whether it's against masks, pro-Trump, BLM, or 4th of July gay sex parties) "respecting every possible rule"... IDGAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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