HorusRa2 5,005 Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said: So as it turn out @HorusRa2 really is cherry picking stories that don't even have a basis in fact. PretendsToBeShocked.gif At the time the article was posted it was presented as a fact. I guess next time I’ll have to wonder if the Associated Press is a trustworthy source of information. 😱 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,846 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said: Because you guys are the ones with a history of Bernie or Bust and 1 out of 10 of you actually voted for Trump. Do I really have to remind you? You want to twist this from an endorsement to political defection, when the facts show: 12% of Bernie supporters defected to Trump. 15% of Clinton supporters defected to McCain Oh but according your talking point, Bernie supporters are so uniquely terrible... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Just now, HorusRa2 said: At the time the article was posted it was presented as a fact. I guess next time I’ll have to wonder if the Associated Press is a trustworthat source of information. 😱 So what you are saying is the AP is biased against Biden for Bernie and your narrative of the media hates Bernie is false. Thanx "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aga Gydal 3,158 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Gov Hooka said: I’m officially writing in Bernie if he doesn’t win the nomination Sigh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, Postboy said: You want to twist this from an endorsement to political defection, when the facts show: 12% of Bernie supporters defected to Trump. 15% of Clinton supporters defected to McCain Oh but according your talking point, Bernie supporters are so uniquely terrible... Go ahead post your source. A vote for McCain is in no way similar to a vote for Trump. I love how Bernie supporters think McCain and Trump are the same. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, Halsey said: Yeah and he did that last time. 1 out of every 10 Sanders supporters still voted Trump in the general. Statements don’t mean **** when you don’t follow through on them Wtf does him saying HE will support a candidate no matter who it is have anything to do with who supporters end up voting for? (Which, btw, Bernie campaigned and rallied for Hillary at countless events in 2016 so what is this nonsense about following through??) More Hillary voters in 2008 voted for McCain than Bernie voters voted Trump. But this is beside the point. These are completely different topics. We're discussing whether a candidate commits to supporting the nominee. Not who supporters vote for in the general. How convenient that you bring up an entirely different topic, and one that's about a small number of Bernie supporters and not Bernie the candidate, when that's who we're actually talking about. I mean honestly, the mental gymnastics and straws you Bernie haters will grasp at to dismiss and undermine him is comical at this point. Especially since you always have to bring up the small percentage of some emphatic supporters since you can't go after Bernie the candidate for the ridiculous statements yall try to make Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted January 29, 2020 Author Share Posted January 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said: So what you are saying is the AP is biased against Biden for Bernie and your narrative of the media hates Bernie is false. Thanx That’s not what I said but keep pushing it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said: So what you are saying is the AP is biased against Biden for Bernie and your narrative of the media hates Bernie is false. Thanx The AP being biased AGAINST an establishment candidate and FOR a progressive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAskedOpinions 658 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Economy said: This is why when ppl say he has a better shot at beating Trump than Biden because he energizes the crowd and would increase voter turnout among supporters... I take that with a bit if a grain of salt because that's not the ONLY factor to consider here U also gotta factor in the votes he'd loose from centrists who'd rather vote from Trump than a Left Wingers that would offset some of the higher turnout to get an actual full picture Although someone did point out that since he's by far the most popular among independents it may more than make up for any centrist voters he looses Guess we will just have to see Ehhh... I would only consider voting blue if Biden was the nominee, otherwise I'm voting Republican. I know it's controversial on this site (and it is among the majority of my friend group in real life as well), but they understood me not supporting a candidate that isn't Biden. I personally don't agree with too many of Bernie and Warren's policies and I don't think Pete is ready yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,846 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 44 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said: Go ahead post your source. A vote for McCain is in no way similar to a vote for Trump. I love how Bernie supporters think McCain and Trump are the same. https://web.archive.org/web/20081108082743/http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/exit.polls/ Lmao and of course you’re downplaying how effective Trump’s anti-establishment, anti-war, anti-free trade and pro-American manufacturing rhetoric was at convincing people that he was for the middle class. Trump was a fake populist in 2016 and if you don’t realize how powerful that is in this moment in time, then you really do align with the corporatists of the Democratic Party. By all means, vote for Biden or Buttigieg or even Bloomberg. Think about your vote in 20-30 years when you realize you ****ed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom 286 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Uh, Bernie took FOREVER to endorse Hillary. His silence was deafening. Long after he lost he wouldn't even concede to losing. Bernie Bros forget FAST. Either that or they were 11 during the last election lmao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloom 286 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Also Bernie has been in politics for over 40 years. That old man IS the establishment, and don't you ever get it twisted, kiddos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoAskedOpinions 658 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 As a conservative, seeing the lack of unity in those on the left is shocking. I would think that if you are set on voting out Trump, you would vote blue regardless of who the Democratic candidate is. It is foolish to either not vote or write in another candidate if you truly want to win the election. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,932 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, unMANiCURED said: Ehhh... I would only consider voting blue if Biden was the nominee, otherwise I'm voting Republican. I know it's controversial on this site (and it is among the majority of my friend group in real life as well), but they understood me not supporting a candidate that isn't Biden. I personally don't agree with too many of Bernie and Warren's policies and I don't think Pete is ready yet. 2 years ago I would have said this (excluding that fact I always hated Trump) I've veered slightly more to the left now on economic matters than I used to (tho I still think Bernie's goals go way too far). I support him for the general direction he would sway America as I know the Government wouldn't let him go all the way anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, unMANiCURED said: Ehhh... I would only consider voting blue if Biden was the nominee, otherwise I'm voting Republican. I know it's controversial on this site (and it is among the majority of my friend group in real life as well), but they understood me not supporting a candidate that isn't Biden. I personally don't agree with too many of Bernie and Warren's policies and I don't think Pete is ready yet. You’re not just voting Republican, you’re voting for Trump. Don’t get it twisted you bigot. Another “Gaga fan” who’s a Trump supporter to add to the block list sweeties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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