Bernie Sanders is in trouble

[HorusRa2 5,005]

4 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

It's a quote from the article from someone from a former Bernie aid. 

Oh wait I did qoute it wrong. He actually said, "He’s kind of a cranky, cantankerous old man"

You and the rest of the cesspool of identify politics driven drivel that pollute these threads are abysmal and s/b embarrassed of your posts. 

 

I respect your right to your own opinion but excuse me if I conclude your opinion doesn’t matter very much when it does not exist in a realm of facts. && y’all can quit crying victim when you get called out for supporting nferior candidates based on records and policies by people who actually read and know what’s going on. 

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

Just now, HorusRa2 said:

You and the rest of the cesspool or identify politics driven drivel that pollute these threads are abysmal and s/b embarrassed of your posts. 

 

I respect your right to your own opinion but excuse me if I conclude your opinion doesn’t matter very much when it does not exist in a realm of facts. && y’all can quit crying victim when you get called out for supporting nferior candidates based on records and policies by people who actually read and know what’s going on. 

Soooo, personal  attacks. 

Cool.

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6 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

I guess Bernie really is in trouble when the knives are our for his closest primary opponent. Literally none of this makes me want to vote for him in the primary.

No one is trying to make you vote for him. 

But let’s get some **** straight here. Bernie supporters have very real concerns about Elizabeth Warren’s positions on key issues that give us flashbacks of Obama. This is a primary election and there are absolutely distinctions between the two that progressives are not afraid to point out. Get used to it. 

On the other hand most Warren supporter’s criticisms about Bernie are superficial. I’ve seen it over and over again with my personal friends and acquaintances. If it’s not something about his age or demeanor, it’s some deep seated resentment over him challenging Hilary Clinton. 

[Morphine Prince 109,766]

I legit have not seen ANYONE personally attack Warren here. 

Yet it’s perfectly fine to be ageist, rude, and spread outright lies about Sanders. 

Some of you are still mad Sanders was tough on a candidate you all thought was 100% going to take over the world, but guess what? She lost to ****ing DONALD TRUMP. 

Maybe reconsider your choice might not be the BEST there is to offer the American people who are so fed up with mainstream politicians that they elected a low-IQ reality TV show star to the most powerful position in the world.

 

[HorusRa2 5,005]

Just now, JusKeepBreathin said:

Soooo, personal  attacks. 

Cool.

See the post before that. 

Do no harm but take no ****. I’m going to call things as they are & that’s the way it is. 

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1 minute ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

Soooo, personal  attacks. 

Cool.

Which is what you’ve done.

[FATCAT 60,901]

1 minute ago, Morphine Prince said:

You’re not voting for his supporters. The way you perceive how others criticize candidates shouldn’t be a factor into who you vote for in the first place. 

Bernie wouldn't support the drivel that this thread has turned into, so don't worry, I know that every group has it's edge cases.

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2 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

Bernie wouldn't support the drivel that this thread has turned into, so don't worry, I know that every group has it's edge cases.

The criticisms of Warren in this thread are all completely rational. 

I do not see how any of this is drivel. 

Every single candidate could be ripped to shreds like this. 

[FATCAT 60,901]

3 minutes ago, Postboy said:

No one is trying to make you vote for him. 

But let’s get some **** straight here. Bernie supporters have very real concerns about Elizabeth Warren’s positions on key issues that give us flashbacks of Obama. This is a primary election and there are absolutely distinctions between the two that progressives are not afraid to point out. Get used to it. 

On the other hand most Warren supporter’s criticisms about Bernie are superficial. I’ve seen it over and over again with my personal friends and acquaintances. If it’s not something about his age or demeanor, it’s some deep seated resentment over him challenging Hilary Clinton. 

I suppose her ethnic background & supporter base are key issues in her policy? lmao

[Othon 34,299]

8 minutes ago, PartySick said:

"@OG Gaga Stan you're not going to get a satisfactory answer from me  I just like Warren better. That's it. My vote, my prerogative. Bernie's a better progressive, that's pretty clear..."

I feel like I need to stress that this is the mindset of most of Warren's supporters.

The vast majority of them are wealthy white liberals that know, for a fact, that Sanders is the better advocate for poor, working class and other marginalized people and they just don't care. They're going to vote for a weaker candidate with significantly worse policy proposals and they have no good reason for doing so other than protecting their own class and racial interests. Why would they want to upset the status quo that they benefit from, that put them where they are?

I can't imagine engaging with something as vital as politics this flippantly. The difference between Warren's and Sanders' policy proposals is the difference between a lifetime of debt or financial emancipation for so many people, and is literally life or death for those in the Middle East that Warren is much more likely to bomb.  

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

Screaming into an echo chamber does not get people to change their minds, but it gets people to leave when they get tired of the noise. 

[HorusRa2 5,005]

Also when are the Warren stans going to denounce behavior this kind of behavior? Calling A group of supporters sexist for supporting a male candidate over a female? Oh and by the way, she says Warren’s plans are more detailed. And they really aren’t. Says they’re more evolved. And they aren’t. && some of them are plans Bernie has in one way or another supported or had his own version before this campaign.

 

[Othon 34,299]

I'd like to thank the handful of people in this thread engaging with this sort of nonsense logically, with policy and record-based criticisms of Warren and defenses of Sanders. You people keep me sane in threads like these and on this site overall. 

@Morphine Prince @Postboy @scarlxrd @HorusRa2

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At this point Democrats will likely nominate Warren as their candidate, if not  Biden. I don't think Dems as a party like Bernie that much actually. If he lost for the second time, we can confirmed that 

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4 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said:

Also when are the Warren stans going to denounce behavior this kind of behavior? Calling A group of supporters sexist for supporting a male candidate over a female? Oh and by the way, she says Warren’s plans are more detailed. And they really aren’t. Says they’re more evolved. And they aren’t. && some of them are plans Bernie has in one way or another supported or had his own version before this campaign.

 

And I will say it again, had one of us here say something along the lines “Cranky old woman,” this whole thread would’ve turned into a conversation about sexism.