Luc 4,775 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 THIS and since the beginning Gaga played the weirdo which made her interesting for the GP, then later she become performance artist that u would wanna go and see live. Apart from Katy's #1 can u tell me something that she's more or better than her contemporaries ..... guess not Yes. The Prismatic tour is easily outselling the ArtRave tour, PRISM is outselling ARTPOP, Katy's getting more youtube views, Katy got nominated for 2 GRAMMYs, Katy has more casual fans, Katy's fanbase isn't declining (like Gaga's), etc. The only thing Gaga is more successful in is Apps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano 958 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Yes. The Prismatic tour is easily outselling the ArtRave tour, PRISM is outselling ARTPOP, Katy's getting more youtube views, Katy got nominated for 2 GRAMMYs, Katy has more casual fans, Katy's fanbase isn't declining (like Gaga's), etc. The only thing Gaga is more successful in is Apps. let's not. We both know the difference between their prices very well. And Gaga never did extraordinary with touring in USA anyway. Forbes praised ARTRAVE not Bangerz neither PRISM and all 3 were mentioned in 1 article.. is Roar better than Applause ? No. What does casual fan mean ? Gaga's has 2 tours with 180M and 225M gross, and more album sales than Katy. This is casual fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artpopmess 369 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Yes. The Prismatic tour is easily outselling the ArtRave tour, PRISM is outselling ARTPOP, Katy's getting more youtube views, Katy got nominated for 2 GRAMMYs, Katy has more casual fans, Katy's fanbase isn't declining (like Gaga's), etc. The only thing Gaga is more successful in is Apps. Well Gaga isn't at her peak right now. Katy is. So unless Prism goes on to sell 4M copies in the US, the tour grosses more than 200M and next year she wins 5 Grammys, we'll be fine don't follow my instagram (trying out reverse psychology) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano 958 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I can hate Katy and still buy a few singles of her, but Id never buy her album or go to her concert, does this make me a casual fan ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Well Gaga isn't at her peak right now. Katy is. So unless Prism goes on to sell 4M copies in the US, the tour grosses more than 200M and next year she wins 5 Grammys, we'll be fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Well Gaga isn't at her peak right now. Katy is. So unless Prism goes on to sell 4M copies in the US, the tour grosses more than 200M and next year she wins 5 Grammys, we'll be fine But if Gaga's fanbase just keeps declining, if she just keeps getting negative press, and if Gaga just keeps getting older without a hit single, the probability that she'll repeak becomes smaller and smaller. let's not. We both know the difference between their prices very well. And Gaga never did extraordinary with touring in USA anyway. Forbes praised ARTRAVE not Bangerz neither PRISM and all 3 were mentioned in 1 article.. is Roar better than Applause ? No. What does casual fan mean ? Gaga's has 2 tours with 180M and 225M gross, and more album sales than Katy. This is casual fans. Ehhm, the difference between their prices aren't that huge. Gaga never did extraordinary in the US, but you guys keep saying that nobody is interested in anything by Katy besides her #1s and that she doesn't have anything else, and I simply said he was wrong, because Katy's doing better in everything right now. I mean, Katy's already added second dates in lots of cities while it took Gaga over a week to sell out in most of them. Casual fan is a fan that listens to the music and likes the music, tells their friends about it, buys the album and enjoys the artist. A hardcore fan is a 'stan' that buys the album, goes to the tour with the priciest tickets, listen to every interview/performance and buys all singles first-week. I can hate Katy and still buy a few singles of her, but Id never buy her album or go to her concert, does this make me a casual fan ? No. It doesn't, a casual fan considers him/herself a 'fan' and that simply means liking his/her music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills 446 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 The amount of casual fans for every artist always fluctuates. That's the reason why they are hardly considered as hardcore ones. If the current sales of their latest albums aren't enough of an indicator, then I guess we all just have to wait for their respective tour receipts once everything is set and done. I find it unfair to compare past achievements with current ones if we're here to determine which has the most number of casual fans as of this moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 EURO DIGITAL SONGS (22.12.2013)14. (-4) LADY GAGA - Do What U Want +20.534 // TOTAL : 335.765164. (+1) LADY GAGA - Applause +1.269 // TOTAL : 431.226 (1wk is missing, probably around 2k more sales) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HausOfRahul 8 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 But if Gaga's fanbase just keeps declining, if she just keeps getting negative press, and if Gaga just keeps getting older without a hit single, the probability that she'll repeak becomes smaller and smaller. Ehhm, the difference between their prices aren't that huge. Gaga never did extraordinary in the US, but you guys keep saying that nobody is interested in anything by Katy besides her #1s and that she doesn't have anything else, and I simply said he was wrong, because Katy's doing better in everything right now. I mean, Katy's already added second dates in lots of cities while it took Gaga over a week to sell out in most of them. Casual fan is a fan that listens to the music and likes the music, tells their friends about it, buys the album and enjoys the artist. A hardcore fan is a 'stan' that buys the album, goes to the tour with the priciest tickets, listen to every interview/performance and buys all singles first-week. No. It doesn't, a casual fan considers him/herself a 'fan' and that simply means liking his/her music. Katy's added second dates are not very significant due to the fact that Katy never does 2nd legs in any of the places she visits. On the contrary, there is a likely chance that Gaga will be doing a second leg in the US. Also, Gaga has more worldwide appeal, and the US is a bit of a harder sell for Gaga. The fact she has sold most out out in a week and she still has 3 months left on sale is a good sign Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 EURO DIGITAL SONGS (22.12.2013) 14. (-4) LADY GAGA - Do What U Want +20.534 // TOTAL : 335.765 164. (+1) LADY GAGA - Applause +1.269 // TOTAL : 431.226 (1wk is missing, probably around 2k more sales) 1 month late...I hope the sales of ARTPOP II will be combined... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 1 month late...I hope the sales of ARTPOP II will be combined...Im not late, Euro Digital posts their charts few weeks later. Today (or next sunday) they will update for Week of 29. december) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Im not late, Euro Digital posts their charts few weeks later. Today (or next sunday) they will update for Week of 29. december) i speak about them ^^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 SALES OF ARTPOP PROMO SINGLES IN EUROPEVENUS : 45.360DOPE : 22.414 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,775 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 EURO DIGITAL SONGS (22.12.2013) 14. (-4) LADY GAGA - Do What U Want +20.534 // TOTAL : 335.765 164. (+1) LADY GAGA - Applause +1.269 // TOTAL : 431.226 (1wk is missing, probably around 2k more sales) Mess at Applause though.. DWUW will outsell Applause but they're both flops SALES OF ARTPOP PROMO SINGLES IN EUROPE VENUS : 45.360 DOPE : 22.414 Venus scalping the other one For your information guys, ARTPOP had about 15-20k pre-orders in all of Europe of which 10k from the UK. This means that Venus sold about 25k on itself, while DOPE about 5-7k. DOPE was performed once, Venus twice in the UK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 SALES OF ARTPOP PROMO SINGLES IN EUROPE VENUS : 45.360 DOPE : 22.414 yes Venus probe the haters wrong! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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