aaronyoji 2,054 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 ugh stop with this "i want tfm 2.0 i want the fame monster rehash revenge of the fame monster's rehashing" blah blah blah. maybe thats the problem with ARTPOP is that its too self referential. i dont want a fame monster 2.0, thats so regressive. i dont want a fame 2.0, i dont even want a born this way 2.0 even tho thats my favorite album. she needs to start fresh. i get that ARTPOP was her means of closing the book on the first chapter of her music, like, ARTPOP is the definition of her work thus far, kind of like a suitcase of her past, like she said, but to me, that was born this way, and i thought what ARTPOP was gonna be was the beginning of the new chapter, even gaga made it seem like that with how much she was emphasizing a clean canvas, simplicity, refinement, discipline, but the music hardly reflects that. i feel like, in hind sight, gaga should've either committed to a full edm rave crazy ass album with more aura-swine-partynauseous type songs to stick to her word about making a rekckless party album, that way it'd match the artrave image more, OR she shouldve just went for the more simplistic, sophisticated image that mirrored the more mature songs on the album like s-x dreams and ARTPOP.but instead we got the watered down medium of both ends, which ended up not working in her favor as an iconoclastic artist that she is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanmonster 28 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 ARTPOP sucked. I don't want more of that. Give me TFM Act 2 instead. ARTPOP IS TFM 2 ugh stop with this "i want tfm 2.0 i want the fame monster rehash revenge of the fame monster's rehashing" blah blah blah. ....i feel like, in hind sight, gaga should've either committed to a full edm rave crazy ass album with more aura-swine-partynauseous type songs to stick to her word about making a rekckless party album, that way it'd match the artrave image more, OR she shouldve just went for the more simplistic, sophisticated image that mirrored the more mature songs on the album like s-x dreams and ARTPOP.but instead we got the watered down medium of both ends, which ended up not working in her favor as an iconoclastic artist that she is. well, i agree with a lot of what you said but i also think it wouldn't have been much better if she committed only to one of those directions because people would say she's one-dimensional and i think the whole point of ARTPOP was to show how she can do a little bit of everything. sonically, you're right, it's all over the place, but that's also a part of the message... "the color palette you choose" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronyoji 2,054 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 ARTPOP IS TFM 2 well, i agree with a lot of what you said but i also think it wouldn't have been much better if she committed only to one of those directions because people would say she's one-dimensional and i think the whole point of ARTPOP was to show how she can do a little bit of everything. sonically, you're right, it's all over the place, but that's also a part of the message... "the color palette you choose" i love the diversity her albums bring, sepcificaly from btw onwards, but on ARTPOP its diversity seems less adventurous and committed. like her experimenting in trap: it was not at all done the way a gaga song doing trap should go, it shoud've really gone there, but j&d just sounds safe, even though its totally different from anything shes done before does that make sense? like the risks shes taking arent that risky in the end. i like for her to keep a diverse album/discography but ARTPOP for me lacks style. like MANiCURE shouldve been more rock, more grit, like how it is live as opposed to some ashlee simpson knock off meets a contrived wannabe bad ass trap breakdown at the end like what is that to this day.... (and dont get me wrong MANiCURE is great, i ienjoy it alot) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 No. ARTPOP is her worst work. It's a mess. It has nothing to do with its success. Just its poor material. http://www.starkey.com/online-hearing-test' get well soon sis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigmatica 0 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 I think that Sire was recorded back in June 2012 ( or even earlier) , and that DJWS is the producer. I wonder at what stage she dropped the original theme of Decay :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 *Act 2 will never happen imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigmatica 0 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Act 2 will never happen imo This. She has tons of new ideas by now + the songs she recorded for ACT2 would sound dated by 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idldte 2 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 ARTPOP IS TFM 2 Obviously you know nothing about TFM. It is as far from TFM as you can get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadesOfCool 1 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 ARTPOP IS TFM 2 well, i agree with a lot of what you said but i also think it wouldn't have been much better if she committed only to one of those directions because people would say she's one-dimensional and i think the whole point of ARTPOP was to show how she can do a little bit of everything. sonically, you're right, it's all over the place, but that's also a part of the message... "the color palette you choose" No, The Fame Monster was more successful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadesOfCool 1 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 ACT II 1. Tinnitus 2. In Like With You 3. Temple 4. Tea 5. Onion Girl 6. Ratchet 7. 8. 9. PARTYNAUSEOUS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanmonster 28 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Obviously you know nothing about TFM. It is as far from TFM as you can get. except actually the themes are not as different as you think they are...both albums explore s-x, the effects of fame, self-image. she even said ARTPOP was the fame monster's little sister or something No, The Fame Monster was more successful i think we all know that. i wasn't referring to commercial success Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idldte 2 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 except actually the themes are not as different as you think they are...both albums explore s-x, the effects of fame, self-image. she even said ARTPOP was the fame monster's little sister or something All of her albums explore those things ARTPOP is nothing like TFM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanmonster 28 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 All of her albums explore those things ARTPOP is nothing like TFM. it's totally ok to have different opinions. i'm just sayin' that i feel like people who say they want another TFM are never going to be satisfied because ARTPOP is literally as close as we are ever going to get to a "TFM 2" this was her tweet: "#HappyBirthdayTheFameMonster a special day when you were born, your techno raver little sister is in my uterus she says hello in glowsticks" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,168 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Not sure if you guys did this before, pretty sure someone did this. But let's just do it again, since I'm unaware of the previous thread, if there was one. BEST: A hybrid can withstand these things, my ARTPOP could mean anything. WORST: Put your hands up, make em' touch, make it real loud. (sounds like an ordinary dance club lyric) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase 407 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 best: do you wanna see me naked lover? do you wanna peek underneath the cover? worst: voodoo voodoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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