Ladle Ghoulash 49,858 Posted Sunday at 08:52 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:52 PM 1 hour ago, Controversiaga said: This is a spectacle to you???? The crash outs? Absolutely! We have forgotten our public MANNERS Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegidadedios 4,756 Posted Sunday at 08:52 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:52 PM 3 minutes ago, artdoll said: Yes, a lot of people seem to forget that Gaga herself was battling with anorexia publicly. We as a fandom should know better. And what does that have to do with Ariana, genuinely? I wish Gaga didn't struggle with that disorder publicly either... Idk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasmas 12,189 Posted Sunday at 08:54 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:54 PM 2 minutes ago, TaylorSwift said: you can go and see on her Instagram: instagram.com/p/DZcx6mJlMYf/ People were saying that this viral photo had been edited: but it turned out to be real: im sorry but the ballerina outfit is a clear signal/whistle to other people with EDs she would do the same with that one ana bracelet years back (i think she stopped after people called it out) there are girls rn in her comments PRAISING her thinness and admitting to the internet that they never thought they would see someone like themselves in her, effing crazy some of yall dont see this as a problem 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdoll 47,141 Posted Sunday at 08:55 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:55 PM 1 minute ago, elegidadedios said: And what does that have to do with Ariana, genuinely? I wish Gaga didn't struggle with that disorder publicly either... Idk. The point is that even Gaga was battling with an eating disorder on a huge platform the same way that Ariana might potentially be. No one would wish something like that on anyone else, which is why the intense criticism doesn't work. 。゚☁ glued up, sometimes it's too much ☁ ゚。 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegidadedios 4,756 Posted Sunday at 08:59 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:59 PM (edited) 4 minutes ago, artdoll said: The point is that even Gaga was battling with an eating disorder on a huge platform the same way that Ariana might potentially be. No one would wish something like that on anyone else, which is why the intense criticism doesn't work. I don't think people are talking about it thinking they're helping in some sort of form rather than just talking about it as social debate. And I'm not saying it's okay, but again, let's not act like she's not most likely pursuing it Edited Sunday at 09:00 PM by elegidadedios Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdoll 47,141 Posted Sunday at 09:05 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:05 PM 1 minute ago, elegidadedios said: I don't think people are talking about it thinking they're helping in some sort of form rather than just talking about it as social debate. And I'm not saying it's okay, but again, let's not act like she's not most likely pursuing it That's true, I think it's difficult to tell how something is meant to come off through text so someone's words could easily be misinterpreted. That's the thing though, we don't know if she is or isn't. Eating disorders can stem from a multitude of reasons, if she developed one as a result of an ongoing issue she's struggling to deal with, the extreme criticism won't help her as it may exacerbate it, If that makes sense? 。゚☁ glued up, sometimes it's too much ☁ ゚。 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creyk 18,552 Posted Sunday at 09:18 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:18 PM 1 hour ago, artdoll said: The same people who are saying she's "too thin" now were the same ones calling her overweight during the pandemic and they considered her at her "healthiest" when she was drinking while taking prescription medication (which can and will cause weight gain) Claims like this are so interesting. Did you check each indvidual social media poster's profile back then and contrast that to the statements they are making now? That is some dedication to the subject! How do you keep it all in your memory? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdoll 47,141 Posted Sunday at 09:23 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:23 PM 3 minutes ago, Creyk said: Claims like this are so interesting. Did you check each indvidual social media poster's profile back then and contrast that to the statements they are making now? That is some dedication to the subject! How do you keep it all in your memory? And how exactly is being sarcastic and passive aggressive conducive to the discussion? I was very clearly being hyperbolic. My post was in regards to how the discussion around her appearance has changed from "she's gained weight" to "she's too thin." 。゚☁ glued up, sometimes it's too much ☁ ゚。 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriane 22,596 Posted Sunday at 09:32 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:32 PM She's not and it's concerning. Like I said in the other thread, this is much more difficult to deal with when you're in the public eye. People commenting on it doesn't help, but is it helpful to pretend that everything is fine? She has to take the first step in admitting that something is wrong and getting help, but it takes a lot of insight that you don't necessarily have in this position. It's painful to see someone slowly consuming themselves in front of the cameras, and there's nothing that can be done from our side. The only GGD member who can read / Credits to Celloo Deng for the profile pic! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artdoll 47,141 Posted Sunday at 09:42 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:42 PM 9 minutes ago, Oriane said: She's not and it's concerning. Like I said in the other thread, this is much more difficult to deal with when you're in the public eye. People commenting on it doesn't help, but is it helpful to pretend that everything is fine? She has to take the first step in admitting that something is wrong and getting help, but it takes a lot of insight that you don't necessarily have in this position. It's painful to see someone slowly consuming themselves in front of the cameras, and there's nothing that can be done from our side. Exactly! Which is why instead of being harsh towards her and potentially exacerbating whatever she's going through I wish people were a little kinder with the way they would address this. 。゚☁ glued up, sometimes it's too much ☁ ゚。 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nkta 537 Posted yesterday at 02:13 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:13 AM 6 hours ago, Decodekid said: She does not look healthy. And calling that out isn’t judgment or body shaming, it’s exactly what it is. I haven’t paid much attention to what the media says or how people are engaging with this topic though, but if you’re seeing what’s obvious it’ll raise concerns. “She does not look healthy” is already a subjective statement. What does a “healthy person” supposed to look like? Someone with a deadly sickness might seem fine, too Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llemesm 2,071 Posted yesterday at 03:00 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:00 AM 35 minutes ago, nkta said: “She does not look healthy” is already a subjective statement. What does a “healthy person” supposed to look like? Someone with a deadly sickness might seem fine, too I think the only thing these kinds of comments do is erase a problem that is clearly right in front of us. Let’s not pretend otherwise. We all know what people mean when they say someone “looks healthy” or “doesn’t look healthy.” Sure, there are many factors that can be taken into account, but in this case it’s obvious we’re talking about weight and an extremely low body fat percentage. It feels absurd to even have to explain something so obvious. Yes, there is a problem. Yes, it’s most likely an eating disorder, or at the very least something deeply tied to food, and probably also connected to psychological, emotional, and social issues, as well as personal conflicts that only she truly knows and will have to work through. I’m not an Ariana Grande fan and I don’t listen to her music, but I respect what she means to so many people, especially young girls who look up to her. Beyond that, she is still a person: someone’s daughter, someone’s sister, someone’s friend. She is a human being with a mind and a body, and she is vulnerable to suffering and to criticism. So I genuinely hope she can face this and get the help she needs. She’s young, beautiful, talented, loved by millions, and she also has the financial means to access a strong medical and psychological support system. I just hope people can approach this with more respect, understand that there may be real suffering behind the public image, and realize that cruel comments will only make whatever she’s going through even worse. ElsaMars 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartz 12,761 Posted yesterday at 04:20 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:20 AM Her entire ribs are showing. The non-concern of the others here are just as harmful as the insensitive comments. Imagine not being able to talk about this in daily life because y'all are policing others. Health and how we perceive what is healthy shouldn't be a taboo topic. We should be able to have an open discourse about this amongst us without being shamed. Inside, we are really made the same. 🕊 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTV 13,706 Posted yesterday at 04:35 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:35 AM She is okay. She is a rich independent woman who makes her own choices. No one can tell her nothing the same way you can live your life the way you want it. she is not self destructive imo. She’s just into a different diet since pandemic 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helxig 45,136 Posted yesterday at 04:47 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:47 AM 13 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: I don’t think it’s as simple as “never talk about a woman’s body,” but I also think the *way* folks are approaching it errs more into the field of judgement than genuine concern. No I totally agree! There are some disgusting comments out there about her body. Like you said, it's all about context. Concern is okay, judgement isn't', but even concern doesn't need to be spammed publicly. I feel comfortable talking in depth about it here on GGD because I know she will never see it, I wouldn't be debating about her health and appearance in her IG comments or whatever I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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