Fuffy 1,029 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 8 minutes ago, RenegAde said: He eventually stripped completely naked and thats is a crime so i guess that why the cops were there. He could have also easily hurt someone else or someones property or even hurt himself judging by the fact that he allegedly injured 3 cops. Yeah, it looks like that was the reason why it was police first. That was the original call. The cops then called for medical support because they suspected the drug overdose. The paramedics did then take over after he allegedly fought the cops and was sent to hospital. The reputation of cops aside, I don’t think it’s the individual officers’ fault here. But there could be evidence later that explains the escalation. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 19,320 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 4 minutes ago, Bronco said: I'd say someone experiencing a possible OD from slow release party drugs common in the gay community like Ket or G etc is absolutely a "mental health call". And I'd be willing to bet good money that if he had been approached by a first aider rather than a police officer (or multiple ones) that the violent response wouldn't have happened. Fair but most people wont make this diagnosis off seeing a naked man causing public nuisance on the street. If we are to believe the reports so far then faulting the cops or anyone one else will be deflecting from his own irresponsibility. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 11,775 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 2 minutes ago, RenegAde said: Fair but most people wont make this diagnosis off seeing a naked man causing public nuisance on the street. If we are to believe the reports so far then faulting the cops or anyone one else will be deflecting from his own irresponsibility. If we are to believe the reports so far there is plenty of circumstancial evidence that would have led to a emergency call handler to dispatching health professionals if we actually made the system work for citizens. I'm old enough to remember plenty of celebs causing a scene in public while high on drugs during stressful periods in their life. And as a result, I'm old enough to remember how many people condemned them and not how they were treated until years later. So I'm not going to condemn and attack someone who's publicly talked about mental health issues previously and who is showing very clear signs of a potential mental breakdown. I'm going to condemn the way society treats the victims of its abuse. 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 19,320 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 20 minutes ago, Addison Rae said: if anyone’s in the influencer/la scene you would’ve heard about him struggling for a while now…he hasn’t been surrounded by good people. so many people in this city that only care about leeching from someone else and enabling their “friends” just so they prolong access to their lifestyle. it’s sad asf I still find it crazy how isolated he was on that street, no friends?, no groupies? no security? He is clearly surrounded by the wrong people 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynamite 59,857 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 (edited) He's hot though don't charge him.. give home some lights and photograph him (This is a joke obviously but still, don't charge him) Edited August 25 by dynamite Like a poem said by a neydy in red 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight 2,440 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 He's in his Public Enemy "Fight the power" era Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 19,320 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 2 minutes ago, Bronco said: If we are to believe the reports so far there is plenty of circumstancial evidence that would have led to a emergency call handler to dispatching health professionals if we actually made the system work for citizens. I'm old enough to remember plenty of celebs causing a scene in public while high on drugs during stressful periods in their life. And as a result, I'm old enough to remember how many people condemned them and not how they were treated until years later. So I'm not going to condemn and attack someone who's publicly talked about mental health issues previously and who is showing very clear signs of a potential mental breakdown. I'm going to condemn the way society treats the victims of its abuse. The line between victim and abuser can tip very swiftly when drugs are involved. And when someone is found naked on the street, it is treated as a crime and the police will be called. Not everyone has the insight to see the celebrity behind it or to understand the personal struggles at play. Public order will be prioritised first. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,897 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Free him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 11,775 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 5 minutes ago, RenegAde said: The line between victim and abuser can tip very swiftly when drugs are involved. And when someone is found naked on the street, it is treated as a crime and the police will be called. Not everyone has the insight to see the celebrity behind it or to understand the personal struggles at play. Public order will be prioritised first. Honestly based on my experience working in this kind of area. The involvement of the police is why these situations turn sour quickly. You're sending abusers to attend to their victims essentially. Naturally, the person(s) respond via their fight or flight and when under the influence this can lead to violent responses. It doesn't require personal knowledge on the part of the person placing the 911 call. Because the whole point of the emergency call system is that the 911 call handler can take the information presented and mobilise the correct emergency service. If the system was structured to actually provide support and reduce the risk of violent crime or escalation - then an incident like this wouldn't have been responded to by multiple armed police but by trained professionals who understand how to respond and address a situation highly likely to be a result of substance or mental health issues. And as a result, the probability of the person (in this case Lil Nas X) responding violently would have been considerably lower. Because they would have been met with professionals who are trained to triage, support and deescalate as opposed to violent thugs trained to shoot non-whites. 2 1 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 19,320 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 12 minutes ago, Bronco said: Honestly based on my experience working in this kind of area. The involvement of the police is why these situations turn sour quickly. You're sending abusers to attend to their victims essentially. Naturally, the person(s) respond via their fight or flight and when under the influence this can lead to violent responses. It doesn't require personal knowledge on the part of the person placing the 911 call. Because the whole point of the emergency call system is that the 911 call handler can take the information presented and mobilise the correct emergency service. If the system was structured to actually provide support and reduce the risk of violent crime or escalation - then an incident like this wouldn't have been responded to by multiple armed police but by trained professionals who understand how to respond and address a situation highly likely to be a result of substance or mental health issues. And as a result, the probability of the person (in this case Lil Nas X) responding violently would have been considerably lower. Because they would have been met with professionals who are trained to triage, support and deescalate as opposed to violent thugs trained to shoot non-whites. I think you might be putting too much responsibility on civilians who might have just noticed a case of indecent exposure/public nuisance and decided to call the emergency before things escalated. Indecent exposure/public nuisance are crimes so the cops will be called. According to reports the cops arrived and called paramedics upon suspicion of a drug overdose. I dont want him to be a victim of the flawed system but there's something to be said about personal responsibility here. Mental health or no mental health Doing drugs let alone over dosing has consequences if you spiral and make a public nuisance of yourself . We all have struggles, but a lot of people make the choice to stay away from drugs precisely to avoid ending up in situations like this. Also attacking anyone especially if they are armed let alone armed american police is insane. 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 73,952 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 I thought the video was all a gimmick but omg.... I hope he's ok Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedTeeth 2,347 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 He's not even naked. CHOMP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 160,854 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 2 hours ago, lastpopicon said: Not even the squirrels are safe: This has to be the most ridiculous footage i've EVER seen I stg American pigs aren't qualified to be ditch diggers, let alone handle life or death decisions Bro's doing a combat roll and claiming he's been shot because an acorn fell on his car? And his and his partner's response is to mag dump into his patrol car? Getting arrested is so dangerous You're stinky 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lastpopicon 31,394 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 Just now, PartySick said: I stg American pigs aren't qualified to be ditch diggers, let alone handle life or death decisions Bro's doing a combat roll and claiming he's been shot because an acorn fell on his car? And his and his partner's response is to mag dump into his patrol car? Getting arrested is so dangerous This video was a eye opener about police in america ngl, these people don't have any training, it's obvious. I guess I'm lucky living in a country where cops can't draw weapons (just in very rare cases) The melody that you choose can rescue you Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson123 38,513 Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 3 hours ago, Red said: I had no idea Montero was his real name You can Call Him By His Name now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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