StarstruckIllusion 53,580 Posted August 8, 2024 Share Posted August 8, 2024 4 minutes ago, Cameltoe Chariot said: How have you not been banned yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,768 Posted August 8, 2024 Author Share Posted August 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, Controversiaga said: I’m sorry but how do we know this is about Palestine ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,580 Posted August 8, 2024 Share Posted August 8, 2024 Yeahhh I’m split. Not entirely in love with how she handled that, even tho the protesters were kinda out of line and like being useless… but she handled it in a funny way and she kinda spilled. Kinda… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessyTop 14,389 Posted August 8, 2024 Share Posted August 8, 2024 Notice how they never protest or heckle Trump or Vance. she handled that like a pro, she’s been calling for cease fire since March. She’s the only hope we got, she’s not the enemy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controversiaga 16,728 Posted August 8, 2024 Share Posted August 8, 2024 4 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Thank you, do we know if they had signs held up that she could read? Do we know if she could understand what they were chanting/protesting?? Cause I was watching this live on tv and did not understand what they were saying, I’m sure from up on stage she might not have either idk Pronounced like “Balenciaga” . Emphasis on the “Ga” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltoe Chariot 15,310 Posted August 8, 2024 Share Posted August 8, 2024 9 minutes ago, faysalaaa said: Go cry privately to one of the mods instead of creating drama on this thread Fair enough, apologies sister Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faysalaaa 5,349 Posted August 8, 2024 Share Posted August 8, 2024 4 minutes ago, Future Lovers said: There will be a time where we can put pressure on Kamala to act more decisively in regards to the subject, but that time is not in this moment when literally anything could tip the scales of the election. We have to start playing the long game instead of only thinking about right here right now. This is literally the time to do it because the Muslim community barely has any power in US politics. But they do now because Kamala needs the Muslim vote in Michigan to win the election. Pressuring Kamala after your power is gone wont work. They arent even attacking her, they are just forcing her to speak on the subject during her visit to their state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aren 965 Posted August 8, 2024 Share Posted August 8, 2024 12 minutes ago, Future Lovers said: Look, I won't say she couldn't have handled it a little better because she could have. But you've also go to realize that she was put in a no-win situation here. If she didn't say anything to them at all, then she was going to take heat from the camp that will twist it into her being antisemitic and bringing in pro-Hamas rhetoric into her platform. If she responds, then she was (and is) going to take heat from those who feel she's trying to silence those who're criticizing Israel. There was no right answer here. You can look back through my post history here and find that I have been adamantly pro=Palestine since this whole conversation began. I still am. Always will be. I don't claim to believe that Kamala's record of messaging on the subject is perfect, nor am I under any delusions that she's suddenly going to get into the White House and solve the whole thing. But what I am quite sure of is that of the two people running for president, she is the one whom the Palestinians actually have some hope under. The one who does support a ceasefire. The one who isn't going to tell Israel to, quote, "finish the job." I understand the point the protestors here wanted to make. I do. I get it. But we've got to pick our battles, and at the moment the battle for Palestine's future rests in the hands of who is in control of the one nation in the world Israel needs permission from to do what they want to do. There is a very clear answer who of the two of them is going to be better for Palestinians. There will be a time where we can put pressure on Kamala to act more decisively in regards to the subject, but that time is not in this moment when literally anything could tip the scales of the election. We have to start playing the long game instead of only thinking about right here right now. Let’s be real, those people don’t want ceasefire, they want the destruction of Israel. And they’ll never be satisfied until Kamala or any other politician explicitly says so (which will obviously never happen since Israel is the closest American ally). Like you said, Kamala supports a ceasefire and increased aid to Gaza. She has been though on Netanyahu, who openly wants Trump to win so he can ‘finish’ Gaza. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battle 4 Ur Life 6,781 Posted August 8, 2024 Share Posted August 8, 2024 the death stare is so iconic lol ”Why’d ya come around me with an ass like that?” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,901 Posted August 8, 2024 Share Posted August 8, 2024 They're still doing this? This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,580 Posted August 8, 2024 Share Posted August 8, 2024 12 minutes ago, MessyTop said: Notice how they never protest or heckle Trump or Vance. she handled that like a pro, she’s been calling for cease fire since March. She’s the only hope we got, she’s not the enemy “you support a genocide” lmao no it’s literally all biden’s fault actually. this is partly why he’s been scared asf to have crowded rallies at college campuses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 80,203 Posted August 8, 2024 Share Posted August 8, 2024 I mean, don't love the fact that she's clashing with pro-Palestine protesters, and I do think some of y'all are getting a bit too coconut-pilled by essentially being like "omg yaaasss queen! get them!" to protesters who have very real and legitimate issues. BUT that being said, looking at this objectively...very few American politicians are going to condemn Israel outrightly. The US, in general, is very pro-Israel and most people (sadly) don't care enough about foreign politics. I'm never going to expect Kamala to 100% condemn Israel and their actions because frankly many Americans don't care or are actively pro-Israel. You won't get that from the average American politician, so expecting that from a presidential candidate is unrealistic. Let's just not forget that even though Trump would be 10x worse on Palestine, that doesn't mean that we can't call on Dems to do more. When you've got both major political parties giving standing ovations to Netanyahu a couple of weeks ago, you gotta understand that this is an issue from both sides of the aisle. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔬𝔫𝔰𝔱𝔢𝔯 𝔱𝔬𝔯𝔢 𝔞𝔴𝔞𝔶 𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔪𝔞𝔰𝔨 𝔞𝔫𝔡...𝔦𝔱𝔰 𝔣𝔞𝔠𝔢 𝔴𝔞𝔰 𝔪𝔦𝔫𝔢. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessyTop 14,389 Posted August 8, 2024 Share Posted August 8, 2024 8 minutes ago, StarstruckIllusion said: “you support a genocide” lmao no it’s literally all biden’s fault actually. this is partly why he’s been scared asf to have crowded rallies at college campuses Trump literally wants to nuke Gaza, he supports Israel 100%. I don’t understand the obsession with Biden and Kamala as the enemy Can they go protest Trump instead? YOu know, the one who will put Jared in charge of mid-East policy and Gaza will end up a parking lot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,580 Posted August 8, 2024 Share Posted August 8, 2024 In good news: Kamala’s actually meeting with the serious parts of the protester’s movement Already a massive upgrade from Biden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpadesToStart 3,839 Posted August 8, 2024 Share Posted August 8, 2024 I think she handled this perfectly. She was respectful and let them have the moment they so clearly wanted, but shut it down quickly and forcefully with nary but a look. PRES 👏I 👏DENT👏IAL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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