Sepsami 21,001 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, adterp said: “Does a business owner have the right to refuse service to an LGBTQ individual or same-sex couple on the basis of faith?” nnnnn Faith kills. What about LGBTQIA protective rights instead of phobic and permissive excuses to harm. And what? Those businesses could have crossed out pink triangles on their doors? That’s fcking terrifying. Ikr it doesn't make sense Following their logic they would refuse service to any non-Christian and their business would die, it's so obvious how they're using their religion to justify their personal prejudice and it's disgusting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 It's just a cake, just bake it, Jesus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltlmnstr 2,771 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahrahWitch 6,985 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Human Rights > Religious Beliefs. The second you allow religion to overtake the Law you give life to all kinds of bigotry and hatred. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartz 12,763 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 9 hours ago, RahrahWitch said: Human Rights > Religious Beliefs. The second you allow religion to overtake the Law you give life to all kinds of bigotry and hatred. I didn't know ordering a cake was a basic human right Inside, we are really made the same. 🕊 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahrahWitch 6,985 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Quartz said: I didn't know ordering a cake was a basic human right You know those kinds of people, Give them an inch they'll take a mile and refuse service of any kind on the basis of religious beliefs. At that point it's outright discrimination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,928 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 15 hours ago, Sepsami said: Ikr it doesn't make sense Following their logic they would refuse service to any non-Christian and their business would die[/n], it's so obvious how they're using their religion to justify their personal prejudice and it's disgusting Not necessarily. We don't know if they refuse to serve specific individual types or just specific themes @Suspiria brought up refusing to bake a cake for MAGA. Does that automatically mean u refuse to serve anyone who's a Trump supporter? Or just that specific aspect u don't agree with? This doesn't even necessarily mean they don't serve transgendered people as a whole So their business wouldn't necessarily die Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 21,001 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 12 hours ago, Economy said: Not necessarily. We don't know if they refuse to serve specific individual types or just specific themes @Suspiria brought up refusing to bake a cake for MAGA. Does that automatically mean u refuse to serve anyone who's a Trump supporter? Or just that specific aspect u don't agree with? This doesn't even necessarily mean they don't serve transgendered people as a whole So their business wouldn't necessarily die Yea that's a very good point, I guess it still stings that people are able to justify their own prejudice by using their religion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JINNOCIDE 3,840 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 The minute I saw the thread title I knew there would be people defending it. Disgusting tbh Y'all just learn when it happens to you or your basic right as a human being is threatened STAN RINA SAWAYAMA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 53,580 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 I’m all for dragging homophobes but at what point do we say “they don’t deserve out money.”? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindness Hooker 7 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 30 minutes ago, JINNOCIDE said: The minute I saw the thread title I knew there would be people defending it. Disgusting tbh Y'all just learn when it happens to you or your basic right as a human being is threatened I won't come for anyone directly but..... tea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodylody 1,790 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 On 4/16/2020 at 12:04 PM, RahrahWitch said: Human Rights > Religious Beliefs. The second you allow religion to overtake the Law you give life to all kinds of bigotry and hatred. Ahhh, like the right to freedom? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,283 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 On 4/16/2020 at 3:14 AM, Suspiria said: He didn't refuse service to the woman though, he just refused to make a trans pride cake... While I certainly don't agree with his beliefs, I don't see how this is all that different than a liberal refusing to make a MAGA cake, or a pro-life cake. First of all, a pro-life cake would be weird af. Second of all, I missed the story where someone refused to make a maga or pro-life cake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcePrincess 2,787 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 This is his business and he decides who to make the cake for. As a customer I will go to another baker and he will get my money. End of discussion It's simple. Nobody has the right to tell you that you must provide this service. Since I provide the service, I can decide who to deliver it to. And yes I'm gay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodylody 1,790 Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, JINNOCIDE said: The minute I saw the thread title I knew there would be people defending it. Disgusting tbh Y'all just learn when it happens to you or your basic right as a human being is threatened If you're given two choices: - The Christian is forced to make pro-LGBT cakes, and LGBT bakers are forced to make cakes with Bible verses which they disagree with, or... - Everyone is free to refuse to create art they disagree with. Which would you choose? Would you like the state to impose that you have to bake cakes quoting the anti-gay Bible verses? Giving people artistic freedom will not stop you getting a cake for any occasion. And I'm certain a cake baked with love is better than one baked by a seething Christian who hates the LGBT community Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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