AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,246 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 18 hours ago, elijahfan said: The label wanted a ballad because Lorde was blowing up on the radio at that moment *Adele Lorde only had one hit and it wasn't a ballad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,246 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 10 hours ago, ShayCristoforo said: I like the live versions. But my question is why the official needed to be sung in that ridiculous voice She has the EXACT same voice in: - Til It Happens To You - Diamond Heart - Joanne - John Wayne - Perfect Illusion - Million Reasons - Angel Down - Grigio Girl - Shallow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAYHEMikey 8,006 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I agree that IWBWY is better / sounds better but Dope fits the album better. NO DUCT TAPE - NO MISSON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,788 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, KEVIN STEVE said: *Adele Lorde only had one hit and it wasn't a ballad She mentioned both artists in the Howard Stern interview. She was referring more to the general trends of pop radio with Adele being popular for her ballads, and Lorde being popular for stripped back, midtempo production. Sure, Lorde had one hit but it was a BIG one and contributed to the shift to pop minimalism which ARTPOP distinctly was *not*. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Fighter 1,222 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 The real question is why were Fashion, Donatella, and Mary Jane Holland on ARTPOP <3 Little Fighter = Gaga & Xtina stan <3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano 958 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Dope doesn't fit on ARTPOP and shouldn't be there. Simply cuz of its sound. It sounds great and has some really deep lyrics, but "i need you more than dope" is such a clumsy line It ruins the song for me, it's not well written (that part of the song). And it's so depressing, literally the opposite of any other song on the album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano 958 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, Little Fighter said: The real question is why were Fashion, Donatella, and Mary Jane Holland on ARTPOP Fashion! is top 3 on the album with Applause and Gypsy. It would be top 4 if DWUW wasn't ruined for us with the whole R. Kelly thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aglaya 8,388 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 23 minutes ago, Mariano said: Dope doesn't fit on ARTPOP and shouldn't be there. Simply cuz of its sound. It sounds great and has some really deep lyrics, but "i need you more than dope" is such a clumsy line It ruins the song for me, it's not well written (that part of the song). And it's so depressing, literally the opposite of any other song on the album. That was the point I can't believe Im logged into a Gaga-fandom forum. Looks like no one knows anything about ARTPOP. And saying that Dope it's a not well written song I- You should check your ears cause clearly something's off. could mean anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 19,137 Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, Mariano said: Dope doesn't fit on ARTPOP and shouldn't be there. Simply cuz of its sound. It sounds great and has some really deep lyrics, but "i need you more than dope" is such a clumsy line It ruins the song for me, it's not well written (that part of the song). And it's so depressing, literally the opposite of any other song on the album. Exactly "I need you more than dope ×5 " Wth is that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardevoir 9,822 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 20 hours ago, the Devil of Pop said: I am going to guess that the record label told her that a song about being famous and wanting to be with your fans is not relatable/maudlin/won't sell. They probably pressured her to re-write it and make it more relatable, so she made it about addiction and love. I think it's kind of cool that Gaga invited two fans/monsters to help her re-write the lyrics It's not. Label wanted her to have pretty written radio kind of ballad like I Wanna Be With You but she decided to give them middle finger and rewrote it as Dope. She said it herself. Sugar, spice, and everything nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochestrMonstr 3,198 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 It’s a painful, messy ballad for a painful, messy era. I honestly think Dope is perfect for ARTPOP, and one of the better songs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,246 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, RenegAde said: Exactly "I need you more than dope ×5 " Wth is that ? WTF, she says "p-p-p-poker face" FORTY TIMES in Poker Face, and it's still an amazingly written song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShayCristoforo 10,607 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 6 hours ago, KEVIN STEVE said: She has the EXACT same voice in: - Til It Happens To You - Diamond Heart - Joanne - John Wayne - Perfect Illusion - Million Reasons - Angel Down - Grigio Girl - Shallow Oh no no, there is a blatant difference. It sounds like she's stumbling around an apartment with a sinus infection and phlegm. Get the pinot ready, because it's turtle time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariano 958 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Aglaya said: That was the point I can't believe Im logged into a Gaga-fandom forum. Looks like no one knows anything about ARTPOP. And saying that Dope it's a not well written song I- You should check your ears cause clearly something's off. First of all, yes obviously "that's the point!!11" of Dope being depressing. That doesn't mean it FITS on ARTPOP. 2nd of all, I clearly said that the line "NEED YOU MORE THAN DOPE" is sloppy and imo it's not good writing, the rest of the song (lyrically) is stellar. You should check your eyes cause clearly you can't read Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aglaya 8,388 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Mariano said: First of all, yes obviously "that's the point!!11" of Dope being depressing. That doesn't mean it FITS on ARTPOP. 2nd of all, I clearly said that the line "NEED YOU MORE THAN DOPE" is sloppy and imo it's not good writing, the rest of the song (lyrically) is stellar. You should check your eyes cause clearly you can't read Well that doesn't make any sense. The point of Dope being such a raw an depressing song it's not about that itself, it's about it's location on the album, and that's why it fits on ARTPOP. The placement, just after Mary Jane Holland (A song about drugs) and right before Gypsy (wich is more of an optimistic song) it's really important in this proyect. Most of the party-rave sounds on the album are used as a metaphor to hide a deeper meaning; Swine is the perfect example of that. It's not a "dance and party" album, it's actually way deeper than that, and Dope is the exact moment you hit the lowest point of the message. For you to say that it doesn't fit on this album based only on the sound of it, just because it's not an electronic-house song, really shows how deeply uninformed about this album you are. About that "Need you more than Dope" line, I just can't understand what you mean by sloppy and not good writing. It's literally what she means. It's a song about needing someone so much, that your love is way more important than the drugs you are addicted to. A raw and sad message that creates the base of ARTPOP. And sadly, I can read all the shallow things you say about the song on this topic. could mean anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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