PM Boris J & Gov. Loose Key Brexit Vote

[Zander 14,944]

13 minutes ago, JustinTrudeau said:

I personally can't believe this was up to the general population to vote on. I don't think most of the UK population realized just what leaving the EU really means at the time. It's so much more than avocados getting more expensive 

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Some were racist as hell too, with the whole "I don't want immigrants here" motto. Well, you got non-white British folks in your streets that aren't going anywhere sometimes soon, so get used to the idea of diversity.  

God save the Queen and the UK at this point. Seriously. 

There was a lot of misinformation aimed towards people that didn't really have a clue and I think it's fair to say that a lot of the leave votes were because of the immigration aspect to it. A few months beforehand there was the refugee crisis in the port of calais and the influx of migrants trying to come here which I think had a lot to do with ultimately swaying voters. 

[JustinTrudeau 2,419]

1 minute ago, Zander said:

There was a lot of misinformation aimed towards people that didn't really have a clue and I think it's fair to say that a lot of the leave votes were because of the immigration aspect to it. A few months beforehand there was the refugee crisis in the port of calais and the influx of migrants trying to come here which I think had a lot to do with ultimately swaying voters. 

Which is not fair. This shouldn't happen because some groups decided to trick undecided voters.

[Akiki 3,900]

At this point it seems that we have to kick the UK out. C'mon, do another referendum or go home already. 

[xoxo Craig 55,649]

35 minutes ago, Akiki said:

At this point it seems that we have to kick the UK out. C'mon, do another referendum or go home already. 

Do it. Then this will accelerate independence for Scotland so we can get back in the EU and leave the UK union and its racist, xenophobic, and facist ways that its vastly becoming

[Lilmonzter 2,864]

A no deal brexit is kind of inevitable at this point

[Benji 20,113]

9 hours ago, xoxo Craig said:

Do it. Then this will accelerate independence for Scotland so we can get back in the EU and leave the UK union and its racist, xenophobic, and facist ways that its vastly becoming

I admire the Scots who want independence but I personally believe without the U.K. propping up many aspects of their economy, even rejoining the EU won’t save them.  Brexit will hit the U.K.’s neighbours who are in the EU pretty hard, that will include a weakened, unstable Scotland if it was to leave the U.K. ... the transition phase of not being a member of the EU or the U.K. would also be disastrous for Scotland.

[Karl 3,586]

So basically BJ said I want it my way with a no deal or I call an election. Lets be honest the way the majority of small town British public think, the conservatives will win the election, putting BJ the prime minister for another 4 years which I'm sure was his plan all along. I wanna leave the UK so bad.

[Miracle 14,068]

Lmao

[Miracle 14,068]

8 minutes ago, Karl said:

So basically BJ said I want it my way with a no deal or I call an election. Lets be honest the way the majority of small town British public think, the conservatives will win the election, putting BJ the prime minister for another 4 years which I'm sure was his plan all along. I wanna leave the UK so bad.

An election shouldn't be called right now because that would mean No deal Brexit. They must reject a new election coming and pass a vote to further extend the Brexit process until new elections can be done decently, with its proper campaigning and Boris Johnson's first loss at the parliament

[JoeMo 3,889]

14 hours ago, xoxo Craig said:

Exactly... if a general election were to happen I think the SNP will win up here and will be close between the Con. and Labour. Will be a hung parliment... so its either the Tories + UKIP/Brexit Party (as I think the majority of England want Brexit) or Labour + LibDems/Rest of the remainers to push for a minority government. The whole thing is a mess

And you're right... a no deal brexit is the worst thing that could happen to the UK and the EU. There are no positive outcome of Brexit, with or without a deal 

So depressing for Scotland. This whole mess has seriously made me regret my no vote in 2014

[Miracle 14,068]

Likely Brexit timeline:

 

- Today a law to extend the Brexit process will pass in the Parliament, 

- Boris Johnson will try to call for elections. He's one hundred percent not getting the 2/3rds of the parliament to vote for it, so he'll have to pass a short law for a simple majority to be enough

- This is where the biggest problem starts: Boris doesn't even have a majority right as another rebel joined the opposition yesterday. But it's likely that one of the rebels think it's a good idea to have an election before Brexit so it's unsure if it'll pass or not. Other rebels may appear in the next days tho.

- If the law passes and 1 (one) of the rebels vote in favour, there will be an election before Brexit, probably as soon as October 14th

- Boris Johnson will win the election but will lose seats,  barely getting 3/4s of a simple majority

If they have time: Parliament will pass another law extending Brexit, a second referendum might be possible.

If they don't: Hard Brexit will happen in October but Boris Johnson will have to resign and won't go to a second election,

Another possibility is that Boris doesn't get a simple majority in a couple days so elections can't happen yet which means Brexit would be officially extended to January 2020

 

 

 

[Florian 20,017]

40 minutes ago, Miracle said:

Likely Brexit timeline:

 

- Today a law to extend the Brexit process will pass in the Parliament, 

- Boris Johnson will try to call for elections. He's one hundred percent not getting the 2/3rds of the parliament to vote for it, so he'll have to pass a short law for a simple majority to be enough

- This is where the biggest problem starts: Boris doesn't even have a majority right as another rebel joined the opposition yesterday. But it's likely that one of the rebels think it's a good idea to have an election before Brexit so it's unsure if it'll pass or not. Other rebels may appear in the next days tho.

- If the law passes and 1 (one) of the rebels vote in favour, there will be an election before Brexit, probably as soon as October 14th

- Boris Johnson will win the election but will lose seats,  barely getting 3/4s of a simple majority

If they have time: Parliament will pass another law extending Brexit, a second referendum might be possible.

If they don't: Hard Brexit will happen in October but Boris Johnson will have to resign and won't go to a second election,

Another possibility is that Boris doesn't get a simple majority in a couple days so elections can't happen yet which means Brexit would be officially extended to January 2020

There is one thing you're missing : will the EU allow a new extension? The first time there were already countries that were against it.

EU needs the Brexit done (the hard way or not) to be able to move on, get stability and calm the markets. It's been 3 years already and a lot of countries are getting frustrated 

[Miracle 14,068]

1 minute ago, Florian said:

There is one thing you're missing : will the EU allow a new extension? The first time there were already countries that were against it.

EU needs the Brexit done (the hard way or not) to be able to move on, get stability and calm the markets. It's been 3 years already and a lot of countries are getting frustrated 

EU won't accept the possibility of a hard Brexit if there's the slightest of avoiding it. It would damage the EU economics too; yes, they'd recover and have the UK as their little bitch, but it's still not pausible That means elections after October 31st or even a referendum.