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As suspected, the DWUW controversy became bigger than it really is

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djBuffoon
3 hours ago, gag said:

I would've preferred this over if she didn't say anything at all and let the controversy dissolve away by itself. No matter what happens, owning up and apologising for your mistake is always the right thing to do and I'm glad she did it.

This. Oscar or no Oscar, being upfront about what you’ve done wrong is far more important. 

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Flopplause
3 hours ago, FlopSlurper said:

Kendrick threatened to take his music out of Spotify if they removed R Kelly's, but everyone is suddenly mute and coming for Gaga instead

wtf I supported Kendrick...but wtf... I'm unstanning if he still root for R. Kelly :poot: Kenny what are you doing, just say nothing if you have nothing to add to the conversation:awkney: 

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Edonis

Barely anyone is still dragging her though. Most people (from what I've seen) have thanked her for the message and moved on. Obsessed haters on stan twitter and the like, 5%, that are vehemently still going on about Gaga don't really add much to the narrative. Good for Gaga for speaking up, owning her mistakes, and carrying on. Regardless of Oscar chances or not, it was a great thing to be done.

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FameGaga

I can’t at people trying to connect this issue with the Oscars. Can we just keep them both a separate topic? People are making this too much of a big deal to Gaga while the main topic is R. Kelly’s heinous actions. 

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FlopSlurper
16 minutes ago, Edonis said:

Barely anyone is still dragging her though. Most people (from what I've seen) have thanked her for the message and moved on. Obsessed haters on stan twitter and the like, 5%, that are vehemently still going on about Gaga don't really add much to the narrative. Good for Gaga for speaking up, owning her mistakes, and carrying on. Regardless of Oscar chances or not, it was a great thing to be done.

Check Snapchat, the first thing people see when they open the app is an article from The Telegraph, about the music video, which i doubt anyone from the GP knew about, but now they'll know

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Donny Winter

Honestly, while I'm glad she said something, I'm upset that she was basically shamed into saying it. People came down hard on her because she is such a powerful supporter/advocate for other sexual assault survivors. I don't think it makes it right for people to do that, but I think that's why this is a "Gaga issue." 

I talked about this in a video I made, but I don't really think our society will help survivors feel safe as long as people feel the need to shame celebrity survivors for not speaking out every single time it becomes a topic of conversation. It is a reflection of the toxic, shaming rape culture that seems widespread. 

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Edonis
1 minute ago, FlopSlurper said:

Check Snapchat, the first thing people see when they open the app is an article from The Telegraph, about the music video, which i doubt anyone from the GP knew about, but now they'll know

It's not like people didn't know about the controversies surrounding the song/video back in 2013 and when TMZ leaked parts of it? The DWUW controversy is not some dirty little secret no one knew about for most of the public. This changes nothing really, especially in the context of her apology.

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Rio
4 hours ago, gag said:

I would've preferred this over if she didn't say anything at all and let the controversy dissolve away by itself. No matter what happens, owning up and apologising for your mistake is always the right thing to do and I'm glad she did it.

We can always expect this from a humble queen like Gaga. She could've left this til after the Oscars, but we know her character. I knew she wouldn't care about all that. I admire her even more now.

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StrawberryBlond

I have no idea why no one's hounding the other ones who worked with him. I get that Gaga did the most high profile collab in recent times but how low are they to go after an abuse victim while she's currently up for awards? I only hope she's now done enough in their eyes to leave her alone. But it proves that abuse victims are only cared about when they're a special type of person. It is callous how a lot of people have reacted to Gaga's admission of past abuse, acting like she's exaggerating for attention or only bringing it up now when it matters. Do these people have any idea how long it takes for some victims to admit their abuse to themselves, never mind others? Or how different people react differently to their abuse?

4 hours ago, FlopSlurper said:

Kendrick threatened to take his music out of Spotify if they removed R Kelly's, but everyone is suddenly mute and coming for Gaga instead

This is appalling. Kendrick doesn't get noticed doing this because he can do no wrong right now. Amazing how the treatment changes when you're going through a good patch and/or based on how you've always been perceived.

4 hours ago, blackstar said:

let's see how many of those 68 people are going to apologize

 

I notice how even some people didn't do an R Kelly collab until after Gaga did hers. Impactful but doesn't get the credit for it. Yet these people don't get hounded for not only collabing with him but jumping on a bandwagon into the bargain. Typical.

3 hours ago, Borislshere said:

Lemme stop you there. Black women are upset because black women are usually not cared about when it comes to things like this (being raped, turning up missing, murdered, etc) so when it took gaga this long to address the situation, it felt like she was just another white woman not genuinely caring about black women. We know gaga cares about all women but I think we should also listen to the criticisms from these black women to do better and speak out on these issues quicker. 

Let me tell you that all victims, regardless of race, usually feel like they are not listened to, noticed or investigated. It's a global problem. It's no excuse to rag on white women as part of an agenda. White female victims get ignored and disbelieved all the time, even by white men. Sometimes even by their own families. I hear these stories all the time. So, black women need to stop viewing the situation through a racial lens and realise that rape has long been an crime that has had issues with being taken seriously across all racial groups. To racialise how seriously it's taken is quite crass, actually. The sad thing is, I don't think they even consider that because they're blinded by the concept of ever and always seeing themselves as those who suffer most in any given situation instead of looking at the bigger picture outside themselves.

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