UK Charts Discussion - Track "Applause" here!

[craig 680]

Albums

1. Rihanna (35k)

2. Led Zeppelin (28k)

3. Little Mix (22k sold)

4. One Direction (a couple of thousand behind)

Looks like Rihanna will fall well short of her 160k debut with TTT.

[Jase 13,056]

Rihanna's November releases are always smart because now is the time album sales sky rocket, heading into Christmas.

[Viperous 0]

Really happy Little Mix are currently on 3rd place! They so deserve it! The album is really good!

[Sexxx 5,538]

Album sales are dire for November.

[craig 680]

14/15 top albums in the midweeks were released in the last 4 weeks (I'm counting Buble in the 14 too).

Emeli Sande is the exception.

[StrawberryBlond 14,263]

ABSOLUTELY. I NEVER understood all of the love which The Promise got. Untouchable fared so much worse, but it's SO much better.

Yep. The Promise is right up there with the likes of The Show and Call The Shots for me as some of their most over-rated, blandest singles that for whatever reason, did really well. I notice that a lot of their singles with the word "the" in them were un-liked by me.

Looks like Rihanna will fall well short of her 160k debut with TTT.

Well short indeed. I didn't know she was doing that bad. I couldn't find first week sales for her first three albums but Rated R opened at #17 and took a week to sell just 100,000 copies. Loud debuted at #2 with 91,000 sold (which was weird because she got crazy UK promotion for this and it went on to become her most successful album here) and TTT at #1 with 160,000 sold. Obviously, most of those buyers bought it on the strength of Loud and TTT's lead single. But TTT let a lot of fans down and they're clearly showing caution this time and maybe trying before they buy. If she debuts with less copies than Loud's opening week, this'll be really embarrassing for her and worrisome, considering she's got UK stadiums to sell out. I thought it was weird that her tour dates and tickets were available before the album's release but I now see that it was a cautionary measure as Def Jam likely knew that this album could be a bit hit or miss for the public and it was best to get their money before they had time to listen to the album. If the album flops, it wouldn't matter, because they'd already have a sold-out tour supporting it. Madonna and One Direction did the same thing. Maybe Gaga could've had a more successful tour if she'd done the same, but I think it's far smarter to wait until after the release. At least then you know everyone going to your show likes your album and isn't there purely because they bought a ticket before realising that the album was crap.

Rihanna's November releases are always smart because now is the time album sales sky rocket, heading into Christmas.

You'd think so, but time is beginning to show cracks in this rigid release schedule. There were so many albums released on the 19th and around November in general, making me think that people are trying to beat Rihanna at her own game. She doesn't own the entire month of November and bigger stars are starting to release albums around the same time in the hopes of blocking her chance of a #1. Already,Rihanna's had tough competition in the US with Taylor Swift this year, as she tends to release in November too and her sales are much better than Rihanna's. That's why I'm glad that Gaga releases her albums whenever they're ready, not on the same month every time, because eventually, people would get wise to her plot and release their albums around her time to lower her chances of #1. Keeping album releases to a specific month and never changing it will backfire some time down the line.

[Jase 13,056]

iTunes update

01. Troublemaker (feat. Flo Rida) - Olly Murs

02. Beneath Your Beautiful (feat. Emeli Sandé) - Labrinth

03. Little Things - One Direction

04. The Power of Love - Gabrielle Aplin

05. Girl On Fire - Alicia Keys

06. Something New - Girls Aloud

07. Ho Hey - The Lumineers

08. Locked Out of Heaven - Bruno Mars

09. Candy - Robbie Williams

10. Gangnam Style (ê°â€¢Ã«â€š¨ 스íƒۓ¼) - PSY

11. Not Giving In (feat. John Newman & Alex Clare) - Rudimental

12. Diamonds - Rihanna

13. DNA - Little Mix

14. Don't You Worry Child (Radio Edit) [feat. John Martin] - Swedish House Mafia

15. Can You Hear Me? (Ayayaya) [feat. Skepta, JME & Ms. D] - Wiley

16. A Thousand Years - Christina Perri

17. Latch (feat. Sam Smith) - Disclosure

18. Skyfall - Adele

19. Sweet Nothing (feat. Florence Welch) - Calvin Harris

20. One More Night - Maroon 5

21. Gangnam Style - PSY

22. Beauty and a Beat (feat. Nicki Minaj) - Justin Bieber

23. Shine Ya Light - Rita Ora

24. Give Me Love - Ed Sheeran

25. Right Now (feat. David Guetta) - Rihanna

26. We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together - Taylor Swift

27. Tidal Wave (feat. Alpines) - Sub Focus

28. Back In Black - AC/DC

29. A Thousand Years, Pt. 2 (feat. Steve Kazee) - Christina Perri

30. Try - P!nk

31. Diamonds - Rihanna

32. Hall of Fame (feat. will.i.am) - The Script

33. DNA - Little Mix

34. Rest of My Life (feat. Usher & David Guetta) - Ludacris

35. Girl On Fire (feat. Nicki Minaj) [inferno Version] - Alicia Keys

36. Love Is Easy - McFly

37. Highway to Hell - AC/DC

38. Anything Could Happen - Ellie Goulding

39. Do You Think of Me? (Radio Edit) - Misha B

40. Va Va Voom - Nicki Minaj

Bubbling Under

44. Holdin' On (Skrillex & Nero Remix) - Monsta

60. Silver Lining (crazy 'bout you) [single Version] - Jessie J

70. I Knew You Were Trouble. - Taylor Swift

71. Doom and Gloom - The Rolling Stones

78. Six Degrees of Separation - The Script

99. Yeah Yeah - Willy Moon

[Swim Deep 0]

Anyword yet on Cher's new release in the UK?

[SomethingMore 1,701]

Anyword yet on Cher's new release in the UK?

You mean the song "Woman's World" ? Around February...

[Jase 13,056]

iTunes update

01. Troublemaker (feat. Flo Rida) - Olly Murs

02. Beneath Your Beautiful (feat. Emeli Sandé) - Labrinth

03. Little Things - One Direction

04. The Power of Love - Gabrielle Aplin

05. Girl On Fire - Alicia Keys

06. Locked Out of Heaven - Bruno Mars

07. Ho Hey - The Lumineers

08. Something New - Girls Aloud

09. Candy - Robbie Williams

10. Not Giving In (feat. John Newman & Alex Clare) - Rudimental

11. Gangnam Style (ê°â€¢Ã«â€š¨ 스íƒۓ¼) - PSY

12. Diamonds - Rihanna

13. Don't You Worry Child (Radio Edit) [feat. John Martin] - Swedish House Mafia

14. DNA - Little Mix

15. Can You Hear Me? (Ayayaya) [feat. Skepta, JME & Ms. D] - Wiley

16. Latch (feat. Sam Smith) - Disclosure

17. A Thousand Years - Christina Perri

18. Sweet Nothing (feat. Florence Welch) - Calvin Harris

19. Skyfall - Adele

20. One More Night - Maroon 5

21. Gangnam Style - PSY

22. Beauty and a Beat (feat. Nicki Minaj) - Justin Bieber

23. Give Me Love - Ed Sheeran

24. Right Now (feat. David Guetta) - Rihanna

25. Shine Ya Light - Rita Ora

26. Tidal Wave (feat. Alpines) - Sub Focus

27. Try - P!nk

28. We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together - Taylor Swift

29. Back In Black - AC/DC

30. Diamonds - Rihanna

31. A Thousand Years, Pt. 2 (feat. Steve Kazee) - Christina Perri

32. Rest of My Life (feat. Usher & David Guetta) - Ludacris

33. DNA - Little Mix

34. Hall of Fame (feat. will.i.am) - The Script

35. Love Is Easy - McFly

36. Girl On Fire (feat. Nicki Minaj) [inferno Version] - Alicia Keys

37. Anything Could Happen - Ellie Goulding

38. Million Voices - Otto Knows

39. Do You Think of Me? (Radio Edit) - Misha B

40. Va Va Voom - Nicki Minaj

Bubbling Under

43. Holdin' On (Skrillex & Nero Remix) - Monsta

49. I Knew You Were Trouble. - Taylor Swift

69. Six Degrees of Separation - The Script

70. Doom and Gloom - The Rolling Stones

82. Yeah Yeah - Willy Moon

90. Gold Dust (Shy FX Exclusive Re-edit) - DJ Fresh

[Swim Deep 0]

You mean the song "Woman's World" ? Around February...

Are you making a joke about the UK's release lag or is it confirmed? :sick:

[Jase 13,056]

iTunes update

01. Troublemaker (feat. Flo Rida) - Olly Murs

02. Beneath Your Beautiful (feat. Emeli Sandé) - Labrinth

03. The Power of Love - Gabrielle Aplin

04. Little Things - One Direction

05. Locked Out of Heaven - Bruno Mars

06. Candy - Robbie Williams

07. Girl On Fire - Alicia Keys

08. Gangnam Style (ê°â€¢Ã«â€š¨ 스íƒۓ¼) - PSY

09. Ho Hey - The Lumineers

10. Something New - Girls Aloud

11. Not Giving In (feat. John Newman & Alex Clare) - Rudimental

12. Don't You Worry Child (Radio Edit) [feat. John Martin] - Swedish House Mafia

13. Diamonds - Rihanna

14. DNA - Little Mix

15. Latch (feat. Sam Smith) - Disclosure

16. O Holy Night - Ladywell Primary School

17. Can You Hear Me? (Ayayaya) [feat. Skepta, JME & Ms. D] - Wiley

18. A Thousand Years - Christina Perri

19. Skyfall - Adele

20. Gangnam Style - PSY

21. Sweet Nothing (feat. Florence Welch) - Calvin Harris

22. One More Night - Maroon 5

23. Beauty and a Beat (feat. Nicki Minaj) - Justin Bieber

24. We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together - Taylor Swift

25. Shine Ya Light - Rita Ora

26. Give Me Love - Ed Sheeran

27. Right Now (feat. David Guetta) - Rihanna

28. Tidal Wave (feat. Alpines) - Sub Focus

29. Try - P!nk

30. Diamonds - Rihanna

31. Hall of Fame (feat. will.i.am) - The Script

32. Love Is Easy - McFly

33. Back In Black - AC/DC

34. DNA - Little Mix

35. Rest of My Life (feat. Usher & David Guetta) - Ludacris

36. A Thousand Years, Pt. 2 (feat. Steve Kazee) - Christina Perri

37. I Knew You Were Trouble. - Taylor Swift

38. Million Voices - Otto Knows

39. Candy (Radio Edit) - Robbie Williams

40. Anything Could Happen - Ellie Goulding

Bubbling Under

46. Holdin' On (Skrillex & Nero Remix) - Monsta

61. Doom and Gloom - The Rolling Stones

73. Lost - Frank Ocean

76. Gold Dust (Shy FX Exclusive Re-edit) - DJ Fresh

86. Six Degrees of Separation - The Script

91. Yeah Yeah - Willy Moon

[StrawberryBlond 14,263]

Will Something New debut at #9 or so? I feel kinda sorry for them as that single was designed to go to #1 and anything less than top 5 was going to be a failure. I think this proves that sometimes, selling out for a #1 backfires (just ask Xtina). I'm wondering if they really will be bringing out new albums in the future (I was led to believe they were releasing a new one, not a greatest hits collection), or if, according to Cheryl's autobiography, they'll do the greatest hits tour and then call it a day because they feel they can achieve no more? The Loving Kind was their lowest charting single and then the top tens stopped with Untouchable, so while future top tens may still be possible, it looks like they'll only just scrape them from now on and that's hardly a foundation for a successful girl band these days.

[craig 680]

Girls Aloud was #2 for 4 days, so should hang on for 3rd or 4th.

Still looks like the single will be a one-week wonder.

Kesha must be releasing now, since the album is a week away.

[seana39223 1]

Intrwsted to see how much Example's album flops even though its my favoruite album by him