Someone is crowdfunding for a black oscars ceremony

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Found someone on indie gogo attempting to crowdfund for a black oscar ceremony, or bloscar ceremony I guess  Not quite sure why this is really necessary or if its even serious. 

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-bloscars-2016/x/13665467#/

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If you donate $1500 you can present an award

 

[Guest]

I can appreciate the fact that they want full equality regarding race, but this is definitely not the way to go.

The whole #OscarsSoWhite dilemma was and still is about the lack of proper representation of minorities in Hollywood. If you really want black actors to get awarded, you have to first create roles that were meant to be played by them. Just look at Annalise Keating from How to Get Away with Murder - that role was designed for a black actress and Viola Davis, the incredible actress who brought Annalise to life, said the exact same thing at the Emmys. If you really want to crowdfund for something, go and do it for a blockbuster with great roles. 

[Pablo 7,910]

Isn't that a step backwards? 

[Luiz 4,253]

and still no asians will win a thing.

 

#OscarsSoRoundEyed

[bionic 50,107]

1 minute ago, Ibo said:

I can appreciate the fact that they want full equality regarding race, but this is definitely not the way to go.

The whole #OscarsSoWhite dilemma was and still is about the lack of proper representation of minorities in Hollywood. If you really want black actors to get awarded, you have to first create roles that were meant to be played by them. Just look at Annalise Keating from How to Get Away with Murder - that role was designed for a black actress and Viola Davis, the incredible actress who brought Annalise to life, said the exact same thing at the Emmys. If you really want to crowdfund for something, go and do it for a blockbuster with great roles. 

For every 1 Shonda Rimes there are 1000 basic white male TV producers (see: the guys who make Game of Thrones)

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[Guest]

5 minutes ago, bionic said:

For every 1 Shonda Rimes there are 1000 basic white male TV producers (see: the guys who make Game of Thrones)

That's true, unfortunately.

[Harry 26,836]

4 minutes ago, Ibo said:

I can appreciate the fact that they want full equality regarding race, but this is definitely not the way to go.

The whole #OscarsSoWhite dilemma was and still is about the lack of proper representation of minorities in Hollywood. If you really want black actors to get awarded, you have to first create roles that were meant to be played by them. Just look at Annalise Keating from How to Get Away with Murder - that role was designed for a black actress and Viola Davis, the incredible actress who brought Annalise to life, said the exact same thing at the Emmys. If you really want to crowdfund for something, go and do it for a blockbuster with great roles. 

I agree to an extent but I don't feel that most roles are ever written as white-specific characters. The white actors just get the parts. The point is that all races should get an equal shot (not just black actors), I don't think they should have to wait around for roles tailor made for them. Don't get me wrong, the lack of diverse roles is something that can be changed, but the casting directors need to be more inclusive as well and I think that's a bigger problem.

For example the black actress playing Hermione in the new Harry Potter play - it's not a 'white' role, yet people were up in arms about that casting because they were used to seeing a white girl play her on screen. And the whole debate about having a black James Bond. None of these characters have whiteness as an important element of their character but people don't want it any other way because that's just "how it is". See how John Boyega was cast in Star Wars. There's nothing stereotypically black about his character, it's just an actor that got cast in a role based on his merits as a performer. I think that's how it should be, but it's rare.

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, Harry said:

I agree to an extent but I don't feel that most roles are ever written as white-specific characters. The white actors just get the parts. The point is that all races should get an equal shot (not just black actors), I don't think they should have to wait around for roles tailor made for them. Don't get me wrong, the lack of diverse roles is something that can be changed, but the casting directors need to be more inclusive as well and I think that's a bigger problem.

For example the black actress playing Hermione in the new Harry Potter play - it's not a 'white' role, yet people were up in arms about that casting because they were used to seeing a white girl play her on screen. And the whole debate about having a black James Bond. None of these characters have whiteness as an important element of their character but people don't want it any other way because that's just "how it is". See how John Boyega was cast in Star Wars. There's nothing stereotypically black about his character, it's just an actor that got cast in a role based on his merits as a performer. I think that's how it should be, but it's rare.

I agree that people should be hired (or not) based on their talents. That should definitely be the ultimate goal. :yes: Recent castings give me hope that it will be like that in the future, but right now the only roles that minorities like black people are getting are mostly all based on stereotypes or history (slaves and thugs for instance). 

I wish I could agree with the rest of your post as well, but the truth is that most blockbusters that don't discuss racial issues will cast white actors in the leading role. Race shouldn't matter when casting a role that's not defined by it the way that characters like Annalise Keating are, and yet it does for most TV producers. What I've observed is that they want white, tall, good looking actors who will appeal to as many people as possible - they want the viewers to be able to identify themselves with the actor, which, in theory, will lead to more money. Not saying that that can't be achieved with POC, but that is certainly the message that Hollywood is sending out. 

That is why I think that there's nothing wrong with introducing roles that were designed for POC. By that I mean roles that consider the upbringing and values of the character's origins. Correct me if I am wrong, but that's one of the few ways black actors and actresses got awarded in the past years.

[Harry 26,836]

6 minutes ago, Ibo said:

I agree that people should be hired (or not) based on their talents. That should definitely be the ultimate goal. :yes: Recent castings give me hope that it will be like that in the future, but right now the only roles that minorities like black people are getting are mostly all based on stereotypes or history (slaves and thugs for instance). 

I wish I could agree with the rest of your post as well, but the truth is that most blockbusters that don't discuss racial issues will cast white actors in the leading role. Race shouldn't matter when casting a role that's not defined by it the way that characters like Annalise Keating are, and yet it does for most TV producers. What I've observed is that they want white, tall, good looking actors who will appeal to as many people as possible - they want the viewers to be able to identify themselves with the actor, which, in theory, will lead to more money. Not saying that that can't be achieved with POC, but that is certainly the message that Hollywood is sending out. 

That is why I think that there's nothing wrong with introducing roles that were designed for POC. By that I mean roles that consider the upbringing and values of the character's origins. Correct me if I am wrong, but that's one of the few ways black actors and actresses got awarded in the past years.

I know that blockbusters will nearly always cast white actors in the role, and that's the problem. That's what I said needs to change. So why don't you agree with my post? We both think that the clear prioritisation of whites over any other race in Hollywood is a bad thing, no? We both think that needs to be changed? So where are you disagreeing with me?

I also never said there was anything wrong with introducing roles designed for POC actors. I said they shouldn't have to wait for those rare roles to pop up in order for them to have a chance at getting work. Those shows have proven to be great, popular and successful, but I don't think the sole answer to improving diversity in film & TV is to churn out more like that.

POC should get the same chances as whites, and it's really that simple. But unless it's a stereotype role or a race-specific role, their chances are numbered. White actors get far more opportunities.

[Klou 2,414]

How about an awards so for everyone but whites. That would make a bit more sense.

[TRILL MONSTER 1,113]

Ewwwww this is why i hate black people

 

 

 

 

jk ...but as a black man this just makes us look dumb and desperate 

[RAMROD 110,276]

I don't this is necessary, isn't this just separating them from the larger society even further than brings unity?

I thought equality and unity are reasons why they were boycotting Oscars?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Harry said:

I know that blockbusters will nearly always cast white actors in the role, and that's the problem. That's what I said needs to change. So why don't you agree with my post? We both think that the clear prioritisation of whites over any other race in Hollywood is a bad thing, no? We both think that needs to be changed? So where are you disagreeing with me?

I also never said there was anything wrong with introducing roles designed for POC actors. I said they shouldn't have to wait for those rare roles to pop up in order for them to have a chance at getting work. Those shows have proven to be great, popular and successful, but I don't think the sole answer to improving diversity in film & TV is to churn out more like that.

POC should get the same chances as whites, and it's really that simple. But unless it's a stereotype role or a race-specific role, their chances are numbered. White actors get far more opportunities.

Nevermind, I misunderstood your original post. I thought that you were against the idea of casting POC for roles that were specifically made for them. All good!