tokyodisko 0 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/10/2014 at 3:42 AM, Stefani328 said: Any artist that collaborates with Dr. Luke & Max Martin is desperate. This isn't just for Taylor or Katy, it's for any pop artist. It's just a cheap route to a microwable hit. How dare they want to have music that is widely accepted as enjoyable. Especially if it is an unknown or indie artist. The chance to work with a big producer is one that people jump at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani328 321 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/10/2014 at 4:11 AM, tokyodisko said: How dare they want to have music that is widely accepted as enjoyable. Especially if it is an unknown or indie artist. The chance to work with a big producer is one that people jump at. I didn't say they couldn't make music that's enjoyable. How many unknown or indie artists are using them? Most artists that are using them are already well known. Maybe, I would feel different if that was the case. I listen to a lot of indie artists and most of their music is better than anything produced by them, well it is in my opinion. People can listen to songs produced by them, who's stopping them? However, I don't think I'm wrong when well established artists decide to have an album produced by Dr.Luke and Max Martin it screams "I NEED A HIT, I WANT A HIT" I just see it as an opportunity to get a quick hit. If Gaga did it , I would say the same thing about her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/10/2014 at 3:07 AM, hans94 said: my biggest hit thread so far almost 20 pages slay hans Just remember it was only through the power and impact of the good sis Tay Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/10/2014 at 4:23 AM, Stefani328 said: I didn't say they couldn't make music that's enjoyable. How many unknown or indie artists are using them? Most artists that are using them are already well known. Maybe, I would feel different if that was the case. I listen to a lot of indie artists and most of their music is better than anything produced by them, well it is in my opinion. People can listen to songs produced by them, who's stopping them? However, I don't think I'm wrong when well established artists decide to have an album produced by Dr.Luke and Max Martin it screams "I NEED A HIT, I WANT A HIT" I just see it as an opportunity to get a quick hit. If Gaga did it , I would say the same thing about her. Katy used them, Marina, etc. It's just that they blew up. They're a popular sound. I don't think it's desperate or anything. I certainly don't prefer it usually, but it isn't bad. RedOne blew up around the time Gaga had her debut, so they too will fade out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani328 321 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/10/2014 at 4:26 AM, tokyodisko said: Katy used them, Marina, etc. It's just that they blew up. They're a popular sound. I don't think it's desperate or anything. I certainly don't prefer it usually, but it isn't bad. RedOne blew up around the time Gaga had her debut, so they too will fade out. I think It's fine if you're just coming on the scene or aren't that popular but if you're using them after... that's just how I feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/10/2014 at 4:30 AM, Stefani328 said: I think It's fine if you're just coming on the scene or aren't that popular but if you're using them after... that's just how I feel. I get where you're coming from, but I don't feel that way. I think it's just a normal trend, I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/10/2014 at 4:25 AM, Redstreak said: Just remember it was only through the power and impact of the good sis Tay and katy perry My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani328 321 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/10/2014 at 4:31 AM, tokyodisko said: I get where you're coming from, but I don't feel that way. I think it's just a normal trend, I suppose. OT: You look hot in your avi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray of Light 8,134 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/10/2014 at 4:34 AM, hans94 said: and katy perry Katy's name alone has probably created the most amount of hit threads, second to Gaga of course Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,089 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/8/2014 at 3:54 PM, LifeArtist said: Come on, why would Katy risk an entire era with LADY GAGA? I mean before ARTPOP came out, she was still a legend (she still is now but you know...) I doubt they wanted to compete with Lady Gaga in purpose. It was a coincidence. Katy a lengend? Yeah right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani328 321 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/10/2014 at 4:40 AM, Ray of Light said: Katy's name alone has probably created the most amount of hit threads, second to Gaga of course That and people love fueds no matter who's involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/10/2014 at 4:40 AM, Ray of Light said: Katy's name alone has probably created the most amount of hit threads, second to Gaga of course hate to admit it but it's true my biggest thread wouldn't even have 4 pages if it wasn't for Katy and her prisms My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsterdreams 1,529 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/10/2014 at 4:41 AM, Stefani328 said: That and people love fueds no matter who's involved. Exactly. I just came to sit back and watch :popcorn: Haters gonna need more than a flashlight for my shade Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Draco 2,531 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/8/2014 at 3:47 PM, tokyodisko said: I don't think she ever comes across as bitter, but she certainly knows that her peers are competition. It's a good strategy, but from what I can tell Taylor took the dancers from her and Katy just took them back. Gaga used to be the exact same way back in TF/TFM, so I don't see the issue. I don't see the issue since there are so many dancers out there dreaming of being hired. Dancers don't dictate how successful a popstar is, they are replaceable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 On 9/10/2014 at 8:14 AM, codydraco said: I don't see the issue since there are so many dancers out there dreaming of being hired. Dancers don't dictate how successful a popstar is, they are replaceable. Right. And even so I assume Katy and her team offered them even more money/perks, so it'd be stupid to refuse. They are workers like anyone else, got dem bills to pay. Taylor should have paid them more. I mean, it's not like if they were being paid well and treated well they would leave right before a huge tour. There must be something else there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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