USA and Iran Conflict

[doraemon 1,145]

It’s gonna get ugly…

[Sarah H 4,383]

I'm so tired of megalomaniac men ruining the world for the rest of us. 

[PartySick 172,975]

1 hour ago, Gabi001 said:

Am I only one glad that soneone is finally preventing a authoritarian theocracy (which was constantly lying, threatening other countries, opressing and killing its own people and showing that the life has no value for them) from getting nuclear bombs? Even Iranian migrants that fled the country are supporting this. I'm really sorry for all killed people, and I definitely don't want a war, but we've seen how diplomatic solutions ended up in 1939 with Hitler and Stalin... Once your opponent wants to destroy you and is ready to give his life for it, you can't make just a diplomatic deal and have everlasting peace. 

Idk, one of my most conservative traits is the "isolationist" thing. I'm not interested in my tax dollars paying to police other sovereign nations when things are so busted here at home that breaking a bone could send me into lifelong debt.

Absolutely cool with nations working together but dropping bombs on other countries that pose little to no threat to us is just next level stupid.

We're tired of endless wars.

Let Israel fight them if they want.

[Gabi001 2,470]

53 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Idk, one of my most conservative traits is the "isolationist" thing. I'm not interested in my tax dollars paying to police other sovereign nations when things are so busted here at home that breaking a bone could send me into lifelong debt.

Absolutely cool with nations working together but dropping bombs on other countries that pose little to no threat to us is just next level stupid.

We're tired of endless wars.

Let Israel fight them if they want.

I see your point. The point of view is a bit different for me in Europe, when we are much closer to conflict and we are always very influenced by situation in  Middle East (refugees, oil prices, mamy people have ties to Mediterranean and Middle East, war with Russia in my neighbouring country and Iran being the closest ally and dron supplier to Russia) 

[PartySick 172,975]

6 minutes ago, Gabi001 said:

I see your point. The point of view is a bit different for me in Europe, when we are much closer to conflict and we are always very influenced by situation in  Middle East (refugees, oil prices, mamy people have ties to Mediterranean and Middle East, war with Russia in my neighbouring country and Iran being the closest ally and dron supplier to Russia) 

That's fair. We live in different places, we're gonna have different views.

I'm just tired of seeing my money pay for leveling foreign nations  

Last time we did this sh*t we toppled several regimes and killed over a million people all on our dime and for what.

[Lucas 31,234]

7 hours ago, Morphine Prince said:

AOC is saying this is grounds for impeachment. 

Well he's been impeached twice but he's still president

[elijahfan 27,499]

3 hours ago, Gabi001 said:

Am I only one glad that soneone is finally preventing a authoritarian theocracy (which was constantly lying, threatening other countries, opressing and killing its own people and showing that the life has no value for them) from getting nuclear bombs? Even Iranian migrants that fled the country are supporting this. I'm really sorry for all killed people, and I definitely don't want a war, but we've seen how diplomatic solutions ended up in 1939 with Hitler and Stalin... Once your opponent wants to destroy you and is ready to give his life for it, you can't make just a diplomatic deal and have everlasting peace. 

I kinda agree with this... I'm not pretending to know all the subtleties of the conflict, but I do know that Iran nearing completion of atomic weapons is bad news for everyone.

I pretty much think humankind was doomed the moment we invented atomic weapons. This is what's going on today in 2025, I can't see things getting much better down the road. Might be a very pessimistic view, but I'm not sure we have that many centuries left as a species.

[Bambino 24,321]

10 hours ago, Morphine Prince said:

Obvious this was happening as it was reported this morning B2 bombers from the US were detected.

This will likely result in a long drawn regional war where US forces are targeted. 

Let’s see how Iran responds.

 

They'll probably bomb US military bases in the Middle East.

Hope Netanyahu's now happy that he's dragging world states to a war that HE started. Psychopath.

[Bambino 24,321]

2 hours ago, PartySick said:

I'm not interested in my tax dollars paying to police other sovereign nations when things are so busted here at home that breaking a bone could send me into lifelong debt.

Can the people do anything about it to change it? US has been using y'all tax money and send it all to Israel in military aid for ages but can this change if people don't want their tax money to go to Israel/other wars?

[PartySick 172,975]

3 minutes ago, Bambino said:

Can the people do anything about it to change it? US has been using y'all tax money and send it all to Israel in military aid for ages but can this change if people don't want their tax money to go to Israel/other wars?

I mean realistically, barring a full uprising (which hasn't happened yet, though millions are protesting every day) not really

We can hound our representatives but they're gonna do whatever they want

The good thing is the MAGA coalition is divided on this and that puts pressure on Trump to abort going any further with this whole thing

[TheBannedShadow 3,424]

9 hours ago, SharkmanthaC said:

And then we get JD Vance. 

How do we arrange things so Kamala is in line? 

Why? She would have done exactly the same. Pushed by Israël.

[BeFree 212]

The USA under Trump’s control is WILD and a danger to the world. This attack was not even discussed with Congress, the UN, other world leaders etc. Totally acting in isolation and in disregard of UN conventions and diplomacy. What is there to stop Trump from bombing any other country? Are we supposed to be reassured that his judgement will spare the rest of the world? Wild and unlawful. 

[Bambino 24,321]

16 minutes ago, PartySick said:

We can hound our representatives but they're gonna do whatever they want

Then I don't see anything changing

[Bambino 24,321]

7 minutes ago, BeFree said:

The USA under Trump’s control is WILD and a danger to the world. This attack was not even discussed with Congress, the UN, other world leaders etc. Totally acting in isolation and in disregard of UN conventions and diplomacy. What is there to stop Trump from bombing any other country? Are we supposed to be reassured that his judgement will spare the rest of the world? Wild and unlawful. 

Well what Israel wants, Israel gets  that's how it's always been.

[nezumi 39]

Thanks to all US people who didn't vote for Kamala thinking she was not good. I wouldn't give a sh*t about your country if it wasn't influencing the world peace like that