GA Seats Theory

[XxBones 1,085]

I know fans have been used to a very active and fun GA floor in the past (me too), but I've been thinking a lot about why she chose to do seats for a higher energy album. She mentioned in her post that this tour would be "theatrical and electrifying" and I feel like this tour might lean into extreme visuals and even storytelling. There's also a lot that can be done in an arena as well that is not just the front stage and walkway (like floating stages, objects, lights, screens etc.) I think the seats are to get people to stay in a certain view and even sit when there is things to take in. I do think she will encourage everyone to stand up and dance. definitely. but I think the seats are more to control how the crowd is perceiving the show. I think this might be a very visual type of show for sure. Thoughts?

[Borisapillar 8,723]

They wanted to make as much money as possible.

Edited Wednesday at 02:15 PM by Borisapillar

[PartySick 151,509]

8 minutes ago, Borisapillar said:

They wanted to make as most money as possible.

Honestly this. They want stadium tour profits and Gaga wanted an arena tour show. This was probably their middle ground.

[Borislshere 52,856]

It was definitely to make the most money. It’s so annoying and extremely frustrating. Should’ve just done a stadium tour at this point 

[LateToCult 40,562]

Mama, a reach behind you 

[Future Lovers 6,655]

I love the enthusiasm but the reason is because they can charge more for seats. Period. End of story. 

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1 hour ago, Borisapillar said:

They wanted to make as most money as possible.

 

1 hour ago, PartySick said:

Honestly this. They want stadium tour profits and Gaga wanted an arena tour show. This was probably their middle ground.

 

52 minutes ago, Borislshere said:

It was definitely to make the most money. It’s so annoying and extremely frustrating. Should’ve just done a stadium tour at this point 

I mean I agree and disagree. There has been other tours recently, like Beyonce's for example, that have an open general admission section and her tours were also severely dynamically priced including that section. The seating floor was intentional. It could have gone both ways.

[LoveDrugPNW 423]

What I’m most perplexed by is why are US/CA seated floors but Europe has GA and Golden Circle—are seated floors just not a thing in Europe? Or is there another reason for the deviation.

The only thing I can think of—and this is a reach—is that the US/CA dates are in summer, so maybe they chose to do seats to remove the need for fans to queue up outside all day. I’m particularly thinking about Vegas in July, Seattle in August (can be hot here, also risk of bad air quality if there are forest fires in OR/WA/BC), NYC. The JWT summer dates were hot, Chromatica Ball was miserable queuing up outside in Atlanta for hours, so that may have been a factor… But even still, the prices here being astronomically higher than in Europe is ridiculous. 

[sarahb 16,485]

1 hour ago, Borisapillar said:

They wanted to make as most money as possible.

The bluntness of this response after reading the original post made me laugh 

[Oriane 20,352]

I've thought about it, since it was the same with Björk's concert. But GA in Europe has standing, so it doesn't make sense.

[Schwerk 7,127]

2 hours ago, LoveDrugPNW said:

What I’m most perplexed by is why are US/CA seated floors but Europe has GA and Golden Circle—are seated floors just not a thing in Europe? Or is there another reason for the deviation.

The only thing I can think of—and this is a reach—is that the US/CA dates are in summer, so maybe they chose to do seats to remove the need for fans to queue up outside all day. I’m particularly thinking about Vegas in July, Seattle in August (can be hot here, also risk of bad air quality if there are forest fires in OR/WA/BC), NYC. The JWT summer dates were hot, Chromatica Ball was miserable queuing up outside in Atlanta for hours, so that may have been a factor… But even still, the prices here being astronomically higher than in Europe is ridiculous. 

Seated floors are not as common, they're usually done with artists that draw an older crowd. I had floor seats at Elton John and Stevie Nicks for example.

The prices in the US have always been astronomically higher than in Europe, that's nothing new. Administration fees also are crazy high in the US. Keep in mind though that the average income in Europe is a lot lower than the US as well, even compared to a 'wealthy' country like the Netherlands. 

I do think the music industry is exploiting music lovers because they cannot make enough money on music sales anymore. Only rich people can go to concerts now, it's messed up. Dynamic pricing should be illegal globally and Ticketmasters monopoly needs to be ended.

A European Chromatica Ball Golden circle early entry ticket was about €260, bow that price has nearly doubles to €496, it's insane.

[River 110,930]

I think she had enough watching gays f-cking during the concert

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17 minutes ago, Schwerk said:

Seated floors are not as common, they're usually done with artists that draw an older crowd. I had floor seats at Elton John and Stevie Nicks for example.

The prices in the US have always been astronomically higher than in Europe, that's nothing new. Administration fees also are crazy high in the US. Keep in mind though that the average income in Europe is a lot lower than the US as well, even compared to a 'wealthy' country like the Netherlands. 

I do think the music industry is exploiting music lovers because they cannot make enough money on music sales anymore. Only rich people can go to concerts now, it's messed up. Dynamic pricing should be illegal globally and Ticketmasters monopoly needs to be ended.

A European Chromatica Ball Golden circle early entry ticket was about €260, bow that price has nearly doubles to €496, it's insane.

It's only a matter of time before something happens because of these practices. It's been building up more and more over the years. I've seen Ticketmaster originally try to combat scalpers and try new things such as credit card entry etc. (things that ended up not only causing issues but that scalpers found a way around).

At some point there was a major shift where Ticketmaster gave up and gave in by allowing resold tickets on their site. Now the shift seems to be even more dangerous where Ticketmaster wants the same profit that scalpers are making and essentially scalping their own tickets by using dynamic pricing. I think because Ticketmaster is basically a monopoly and this is becoming their standard practice it's only a matter of time before everyone who is a fan of any live artist will see what it's come to and something needs to happen to stop all of this. These companies are the ones that are starting these practices and it shouldn't be normalized. I know the business side of the artist might opt in but they are also seeing the profit that scalpers get and they basically also want to see that money too. There really needs to be a separate third party to regulate all this. It's becoming insane and the people that are hurt the most are the fans.

[LibraLove 1,266]

5 hours ago, Borislshere said:

It was definitely to make the most money. It’s so annoying and extremely frustrating. Should’ve just done a stadium tour at this point 

Well, I was on the floor in Atlanta for the Chromatica Ball, which was a stadium tour and there was also chairs on the floor. I think it's more that she understands her fanbase is aging up and also attracting older people in general, so some people can't stand for hours on end.

[bim 441]

There’s a financial aspect to it for sure. There are laws in Europe that restrict pricing, so having a pit makes more sense. Since the US does not have those restrictions, the floor seats can make tenfold more money. I wouldn’t mind as much if not for the dynamic pricing, which I find to be criminal personally. There are essentially people who will end up paying the same amount for nosebleeds than someone on the floor just based on timing of purchase and how many eyes are on tickets. It’s incredibly gross and capitalistic to me. I’ve been to many of her shows since 2009 and this is the first time I’ve felt exploited for money.

Maybe this is a bit selfish, especially because I’m privileged enough to be able to go, but the thought of someone who doesn’t care as much to be there paying less for a better seat when her shows and her music mean so much to me is upsetting.

I’m still excited for the show for sure, this layer takes away from it a bit though.