Hyoha 1,607 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 I sincerely doubt that she will ever voice her opinion on the matter. She wouldn’t risk her career for it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharamon 6,839 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 3 hours ago, Aren said: I mean, Gaga grew up in Manhattan with a lot of Jewish friends. Her current boyfriend Michael is also Jewish. Not sure why people would expect her to be against Israel. 'not sure why'?????????????? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 145,837 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 29 minutes ago, Scar97 said: Bingo. And I weirdly didn’t see much animosity thrown at Russians at large whenever the Ukraine War started. Not trying to be messy, just an observation Oh, there was a lot. But Russians are brainwashed to support their dictator just like Israelis are brainwashed to believe foreigners disagreeing with genocide means they hate Jews. Source: I live in 'Murica and we are also brainwashed by nationalist war criminals Israel is just mini-US Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 145,837 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 9 minutes ago, Hyoha said: I sincerely doubt that she will ever voice her opinion on the matter. She wouldn’t risk her career for it. She doesn't need to regardless. We already know she supports peace. Any kind of specific stance coming from her would be a) likely ill-informed and b) divisive for no reason. The spotlight literally does not need to be on celebrities for this conflict 4 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloHangoverz 15,586 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 (edited) 4 minutes ago, PartySick said: Oh, there was a lot. But Russians are brainwashed to support their dictator just like Israelis are brainwashed to believe foreigners disagreeing with genocide means they hate Jews. Source: I live in 'Murica and we are also brainwashed by nationalist war criminals Israel is just mini-US I'd say there was a lot less. Russians are seen as victims of their authoritarian dictator more than Israelis are. And people are a lot more receptive to people like NFKRZ than they'd be to an Israeli equivalent, I think. Edited May 11 by HelloHangoverz my head is filled with broken mirrors, so many I can't look away 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowman 7,915 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 I can’t believe how dumb this whole block thing is Check out my new single 'Loon' - https://open.spotify.com/track/7q1GGm2mBlC9hPWige0C6e?si=6b5319d0e3b44fa6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Hyoha said: I sincerely doubt that she will ever voice her opinion on the matter. She wouldn’t risk her career for it. She shouldn't. And if she's asked a question about it, she should say she supports peace and leave it at that. Cuz even when you try to give a nuanced answer they'll still cancel you, and half of the public will be upset with you, from one side or the other. Edited May 11 by Dennis 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaGame 3,075 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 (edited) I once saw a user on tiktok who used the same article to say she's a zionist. When I went to say this was actually from 2014, she BLOCKED me. I also saw other comments saying things like "Didn't she say something racist on Born This Way" "Didn't she do blackface" when all of this stuff has been debunked/changed, and she only replied to the bad ones. And also, she didn't do these types of vids for any other celeb. It was so obvious she hated Gaga. Edited May 11 by GagaGame LG7? CANCELLED Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyoha 1,607 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 28 minutes ago, Dennis said: She shouldn't. And if she's asked a question about it, she should say she supports peace and leave it at that. Cuz even when you try to give a nuanced answer they'll still cancel you, and half of the public will be upset with you, from one side or the other. At this point, being silent = being complicit. And that’s all I’ll say Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 16,473 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 28 minutes ago, GagaGame said: I once saw a user on tiktok who used the same article to say she's a zionist. When I went to say this was actually from 2014, she BLOCKED me. I also saw other comments saying things like "Didn't she say something racist on Born This Way" "Didn't she do blackface" when all of this stuff has been debunked/changed, and she only replied to the bad ones. And also, she didn't do these types of vids for any other celeb. It was so obvious she hated Gaga. Yeah, folks need someone to villainize so that they can feel morally vindicated and celebrities are a pretty easy target, especially given that reputation is a huge part of their currency Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 1 hour ago, HelloHangoverz said: I'd say there was a lot less. Russians are seen as victims of their authoritarian dictator more than Israelis are. And people are a lot more receptive to people like NFKRZ than they'd be to an Israeli equivalent, I think. Anybody who thinks Russians don't support the war doesn't know Russia well enough lol You could say they're brainwashed by their media. But to say that they don't support the war or that they don't support Putin is delusional. A strong majority of them do. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkariGaga 1,102 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 4 hours ago, Aren said: I mean, Gaga grew up in Manhattan with a lot of Jewish friends. Her current boyfriend Michael is also Jewish. Not sure why people would expect her to be against Israel. You can be friends with Jewish people and still against Genocide. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis 8,391 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) 8 minutes ago, AkariGaga said: You can be friends with Jewish people and still against Genocide. In most cases, depends on whether you're calling for peace, ceasefire, two-state solution, which would not be offensive to them, or whether you're calling for the destruction of Israel, which would endanger the Jewish population in the middle east etc.. Some people go too far. But I think saying you're pro-ceasefire and release of the hostages is not offensive to anybody. Edited May 12 by Dennis 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasagna 2,494 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 im disappointed in Gaga for not speaking out against israel but frankly these remarks dont indicated what side shes on one way or another so its just a whole bunch of performative nothing Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 145,837 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 7 minutes ago, Dennis said: You could say they're brainwashed by their media. But to say that they don't support the war or that they don't support Putin is delusional. A strong majority of them do. It's an interesting topic of discussion tbh. As I said above, you see the same phenomenon in other countries. The US, Israel, China, North Korea's probably the most extreme example. Propaganda is a strong mother f*cker that can invoke intense feelings of nationalism and brainwashing in populations of people. Here in the States, we're taught from a young age about brave explorers from Britain and Spain that discovered the "New World" and manifested our destiny all over the North American continent to establish the most free and amazing country on Earth. And we ALL know that's a load of bullsh*t but ask any apolitical or right wing American and you'll see that's the vision of America they believe in. I'm positive if you sat each Russian down and deprogrammed them, the majority would come to the conclusion that the Ukraine invasion and war is horrid. Same with Israelis and the genocide in Gaza. Same with Americans and our 20 year assault on the middle east (which itself followed decades of f*ckery). People just simply don't know any better and they're rarely given a reason to seek another stance. That's even more true in countries where sitting leaders' political enemies end up "falling" out of windows or imprisoned and poisoned We should have a conversation about it sometime when I'm not exhausted but I did wanna leave my two cents 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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