SAG AFTRA Strike Started. Oppenheimer Cast Walked Out Of UK Premiere

[Bronco 6,879]

10 minutes ago, Better Day said:

Yes, the unions are just out to cause trouble. The actors are saying they are unpaid yet go out on strike and receive no money at all. Where is the logic? 

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[Guillaume Hamon 6,027]

34 minutes ago, Better Day said:

The actors are saying they are unpaid yet go out on strike and receive no money at all. Where is the logic? 

Well they're willing to sacrifice more at the moment in order to get a better deal on the long term, that's always the risk and goal of a strike.

35 minutes ago, Better Day said:

Yes, the unions are just out to cause trouble.

You think folks wake up thinking " I would like to miss some of my pay and create trouble so folks can't watch their shows "?

They obviously have a goal.

38 minutes ago, Better Day said:

Grossly underpaid, you must be kidding me. 

Please always be careful with artists pays cause we focus on stars income but small are often payed minimal wages.

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40 minutes ago, Better Day said:

I have worked in crap conditions before, especially when I was in hospitality I never had any knights in shiny armour that is unions to support me. 

So because you didn't get support you don't want it for others neither?

Unions should be everywhere.

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1 hour ago, Better Day said:

I have worked in crap conditions before, especially when I was in hospitality I never had any knights in shiny armour that is unions to support me. 

I am sorry that you hadn't the best experiences from your union then... I think it's incredibly important that we have unions

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1 hour ago, Better Day said:

I have worked in crap conditions before, especially when I was in hospitality I never had any knights in shiny armour that is unions to support me. 

What's your point? 

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1 hour ago, Better Day said:

Grossly underpaid, you must be kidding me. 

Do you think this is only affecting big stars who get paid a lot of money? Have you ever given a singe thought to new artists who are barely getting by and working in shit conditions? Did you EVER consider that such people exist and that strikes are literally essential for them to get their rightful pay and working conditions? Or are you just saying anything to appear contrarian with absolutely no grasp of the situation or of the crucial work that (most but not all) unions do all over the world?

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Just now, Cello said:

What's your point? 

It's giving "I suffered so everyone else should too" 

[Celloo Deng 53,693]

Just now, alsemanche said:

It's giving "I suffered so everyone else should too" 

Yep. Meanwhile I recently received a pay rise and bonus thanks to the union I support. We all need unions, without them we have no voice and no chance for better working conditions 

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12 hours ago, G U C C I said:

Lol what are talking about? Jesus y’all google and learn something before replying please. Of course you are not required to be a part of SAG to act. Hell you can be SAG eligible and not a union member of SAG AFTRA!  Which is why I was asking for clarification on Gaga’s membership status to see how it could potentially limit her. 

It’s just not realistic for her to be working at the level she is and not be union repped. These unions aren’t just clubs—they enforce rules and regulations for the long work days, breaks every certain of hours, limitations as to what you can touch on set (equipment; set-pieces) and it’s all in place for safety of the workers. Each department has a different union and as a member you fall into the rules and regulations of the work day set in place to maintain the professional environment.

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2 hours ago, Better Day said:

I have worked in crap conditions before, especially when I was in hospitality I never had any knights in shiny armour that is unions to support me. 

You know when you suffer poor working conditions YOU have to organize in your work place, meet with your peers and decide what you need to ask for — all be on the same page, and threaten a strike if your needs are not met based on your toxic/unsafe working conditions.

You don’t just get to complain and wait for someone to save you.

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2 hours ago, Better Day said:

Yes, the unions are just out to cause trouble. The actors are saying they are unpaid yet go out on strike and receive no money at all. Where is the logic? 

You don’t get it—don’t talk on things you’re not versed in.

[CheapGin 558]

2 hours ago, Better Day said:

Grossly underpaid, you must be kidding me. 

You know most actors are getting day rates for a few commercial jobs a month if they’re lucky, or in a play that runs for a few weeks and making probably close to $2,000-3,000 a month. That is not a lot of money.

These unions offer health care and benefits for protection when there is not work, and promises certain conditions and standards to be met when there is work.

Without an actors union, big stars would be making millions and they would be paying the rest of the 150,000 working actors in the country $50 a week for 12 hour work days. 

You're a conservative right winger if you believe these things — solidarity in culture with feminism, lgbtq rights, and racial justice is all tied to workers rights, fair working conditions, and the MASS number of exploited laborers realizing they’re stronger than the handful of billionaires calling the shots when they come together and unionize against them.

Learn something please.

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The elephant in the room for me is that they're writers, not essential doctors, teachers or nurses. Striking may get them a pay raise but if I was in their position where I want more money, I'd learn a skill that pays better or think smarter at how you do your job so I could get better opportunities (and pay). 

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27 minutes ago, CheapGin said:

You know most actors are getting day rates for a few commercial jobs a month if they’re lucky, or in a play that runs for a few weeks and making probably close to $2,000-3,000 a month. That is not a lot of money.

These unions offer health care and benefits for protection when there is not work, and promises certain conditions and standards to be met when there is work.

Without an actors union, big stars would be making millions and they would be paying the rest of the 150,000 working actors in the country $50 a week for 12 hour work days. 

You're a conservative right winger if you believe these things — solidarity in culture with feminism, lgbtq rights, and racial justice is all tied to workers rights, fair working conditions, and the MASS number of exploited laborers realizing they’re stronger than the handful of billionaires calling the shots when they come together and unionize against them.

Learn something please.

Chiming in here as a centrist, I agree with you on the benefits they provide to workers but it can be a double-edged sword. 

Action from unions can stifle innovation in companies who all need profit to grow/survive. R&D is known to decrease after unionization, which can affect consumers and technology too. They also limit manager's ability to judge employees solely performance, affecting the bottom line and slowing growth. It's quite common for companies to relocate entirely to a different state or country if labour action becomes too complex.

There's also some issues with fair promotions in certain unionized areas, with promotions often given to seniors over rising high-performers. Some unions have high fees and a complex internal politics, which makes it harder for staff who are squeezed between both their employer and their union.

So unions could, in some instances, be detrimental to certain people's careers.