HausOfMark 4,197 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'd be pissed if I met her Backstage and all I can see is her eyes This. Lmao -Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 This isn't islamic clothing though, you can't find anything about wearing burqas/headscarves in the Quran, it's just the result of bad education and the lack of women rights in the middle east. Yes it is. Islamic law is derived from the Qur'an AND authentic Sunnah which is sayings and teachings of the Prophet with authentic chain of narators (this is very big science in itself and very interesting, something which Bible doesn't have). So it's not just Qur'an. But there is also Qur'anic text about covering up. It's matter of interpretation of islamic scholars whether only face and hands can be shown, or only eyes or not even that. There are so many women who find it liberating while wearing it, and choose to wear it in the west (but then some countries take away that right) there shouldn't be generalisation. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphaz 7,947 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I hope this burqa song is fake, or at least, change the title a title can means so much to some people, if you put burqa in a song (not as title) nobody will notice, especially in non english spoken countries or at least no one going to make a big deal out of it, but once you named a song burqa, people will assume it's a song that insult muslims, nobody will pay attention to it's actual meaning of the song I'm sure 90% that's going to happen if she release a song called burqa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Yes it is. Islamic law is derived from the Qur'an AND authentic Sunnah which is sayings and teachings of the Prophet with authentic chain of narators (this is very big science in itself and very interesting, something which Bible doesn't have). So it's not just Qur'an. But there is also Qur'anic text about covering up. It's matter of interpretation of islamic scholars whether only face and hands can be shown, or only eyes or not even that. There are so many women who find it liberating while wearing it, and choose to wear it in the west (but then some countries take away that right) there shouldn't be generalisation. Yeah, I thought it was also derived from Shari'ah law? Which comes from the Quran itself, I think. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isla 2 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Only Gaga could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Hmmm... if somehow she tried to address the issue of war crimes committed by Serbia and Serbs in the past in Balkans, maybe in one of her videos wearing serbian army clothing, I don't think it would be seen as ''no, she's not trying to portray all Serbs in bad light, she's just addressing one issue''. I don't think Serbs would find it funny or amusing at all. Just saying. She doesn't need that shocking shtick anymore, people know that she's talented, she should try more to draw attention with good music. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Holland 4 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 She wore raw meat. She wears fur. She can wear a burqa too, I mean, it's just what Gaga does, you know? Plus, I love the idea of bruises showing underneath a burqa, the whole concept would be amazing. And no - that doesn't mean that she generalises the entire Islamic population but rather addresses one issue in particular. I can't believe how some people got all worked up over this, it's hilarious I'd be popping some corn if I weren't so worried of the GP reaction to a song titled "Burqa" I love the concept of hiding bruises underneath a burqa too :music: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Yeah, I thought it was also derived from Shari'ah law? Which comes from the Quran itself, I think. Yes, both Qur'an and Sunnah, which explains verses of the Qur'an, verses can be abrogated, revealed in certain time, specified to something/someone or applied in general, that's why there are scholars who study this science all their life. Muslims follow the scholar who they trust, and who has most evidence for some issue. Some of them follow more their culture than islam, but that's another issue. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip 4 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 It's not in sense offensive wearing a burqa or niqab (spelling?) but last time she wore it with a clutch saying C U N T on it and like 5 racoon tails dangeling from it. I would say thats slightly offensive actually. :rofl: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceminay 643 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Yes it is. Islamic law is derived from the Qur'an AND authentic Sunnah which is sayings and teachings of the Prophet with authentic chain of narators (this is very big science in itself and very interesting, something which Bible doesn't have). So it's not just Qur'an. But there is also Qur'anic text about covering up. It's matter of interpretation of islamic scholars whether only face and hands can be shown, or only eyes or not even that. There are so many women who find it liberating while wearing it, and choose to wear it in the west (but then some countries take away that right) there shouldn't be generalisation. I'm muslim and the only the only resource of Islam for me is the Quran. I'm not going to do what is said in sayings that are more than 1500 years old, they were told by the profit to bring peace in the Arabic peninsula at that time (women were being raped, unwanted babies were being buried alive etc. many sick things...) it obviously was necessary for women to cover up at that time, until common sense and education became common among the region (which still isn't btw) I have nothing against headscarves btw. I fully support those who wear it by there own will and are not forced, it can be found liberating. I'm just against those who are forced to do such stuff because it does have it's own handicaps and in a way isn't part of gender equality. So I don't see anything wrong with Gaga wearing this, it looks nice on her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amen Fashion 1,135 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 This isn't islamic clothing though, you can't find anything about wearing burqas/headscarves in the Quran, it's just the result of bad education and the lack of women rights in the middle east. I'm muslim and the only the only resource of Islam for me is the Quran. I'm not going to do what is said in sayings that are more than 1500 years old, they were told by the profit to bring peace in the Arabic peninsula at that time (women were being raped, unwanted babies were being buried alive etc. many sick things...) it obviously was necessary for women to cover up at that time, until common sense and education became common among the region (which still isn't btw) I have nothing against headscarves btw. I fully support those who wear it by there own will and are not forced, it can be found liberating. I'm just against those who are forced to do such stuff because it does have it's own handicaps and in a way isn't part of gender equality. So I don't see anything wrong with Gaga wearing this, it looks nice on her. I totally agree. This is also the view I have. :worship: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fey 0 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'm muslim and the only the only resource of Islam for me is the Quran. I'm not going to do what is said in sayings that are more than 1500 years old, they were told by the profit to bring peace in the Arabic peninsula at that time (women were being raped, unwanted babies were being buried alive etc. many sick things...) it obviously was necessary for women to cover up at that time, until common sense and education became common among the region (which still isn't btw) I have nothing against headscarves btw. I fully support those who wear it by there own will and are not forced, it can be found liberating. I'm just against those who are forced to do such stuff because it does have it's own handicaps and in a way isn't part of gender equality. So I don't see anything wrong with Gaga wearing this, it looks nice on her. i'm muslim too and i fully agree. this is really how i view the religion. the quran and its teachings work well with what the culture was like at the time where he was living, but all these years later, there are teachings that don't fit anymore. hijabs/niqabs/burqas are fine if a woman chooses to wear them, and many do because they feel free from judgement when they're worn. but many women don't feel this way, and this too is okay with me. women shouldn't be forced to do anything, especially in this day and age. those teachings were made for women's own safeties back then - the scarves were worn for their protection, and being dominated by men was also for their own protection, to protect them from rapists and the like. obviously, the thought has changed now. EDIT: i do agree with lego below, too, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'm muslim and the only the only resource of Islam for me is the Quran. I'm not going to do what is said in sayings that are more than 1500 years old, they were told by the profit to bring peace in the Arabic peninsula at that time (women were being raped, unwanted babies were being buried alive etc. many sick things...) it obviously was necessary for women to cover up at that time, until common sense and education became common among the region (which still isn't btw) I have nothing against headscarves btw. I fully support those who wear it by there own will and are not forced, it can be found liberating. I'm just against those who are forced to do such stuff because it does have it's own handicaps and in a way isn't part of gender equality. So I don't see anything wrong with Gaga wearing this, it looks nice on her. Well with this bolded statement you said everything. It doesn't matter if one is muslim or not, born in muslim family or country can be as ignorant of his religion as any other christian or jew. The truth is that islamic sacred texts are both Qur'an and sunnah-hadiths, and muslims wouldn't know how to pray or pay charity or make pilgrimage if they would take latter one off. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Holland 4 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 True, but honestly I don't think Gaga will ever be accepted by the GP as she was during TF/TFM. And that is completely okay, because she decided to make music that matters. She decided to make statements. And those are the thing that made me love her to death. Not ready for her to regress just because of the GP, urgh. I agree and I hate that I am worried about the way the first single/a song called Burqa will be received But I hope she owns up to it like "Yeah, I knew y'all would be on my ass about it, but that was one of my goals" not be like "I am sad people don't get it, it's a beautiful concept." <-- she stated something like that about the Judas MV. I mean, our Lady is smart and ever since she has been in "the game", one of the things she wanted to do was to "piss people off" because she loved the shock value of the acts she put up. I don't want her getting all defensive about Burqa because she knows there will be controversy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandchildDavid 14 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 :pukey: Not another meltdown. but I like it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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