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Fake Wokeness surrounding Kim Petras?


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14 hours ago, gumzy3000 said:

My ex-boyfriend transitioned into a trans woman and her life has been very difficult. Abuse, people spitting on her face, assault, etc. I have the strongest support for transwomen. Their lives are not at all easy.

Kim must be facing a ton of obstacles to make it big in the toxic music industry. We do not know what happens behind closed doors, but I’m sure she isn’t taken seriously when business deals and contracts are signed. She is no where near the level of Dua, Katy, Doja (whom Dr.Luke is making millions off). Why attack a vulnerable trans artist? She might be desperate and this is her chance to make it. 

You all need to stop bullying and cancelling her. Stop thinking the world is black and white. Looking at the bigger picture, we should support Kim. 

Im not transphopic but Kim chose to work with dr luke full well knowing what he did to kesha and she called kesha a liar and downplayed what happend so yes she deserves to be held accountable for it we shouldnt let her get away with just because she transgender thats not fair

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JusKeepBreathin
15 hours ago, stvn said:

This is such a broad and unrealistic generalization. It's possible that some people are doing what they have to to eat and also possible that some people (with money and other options) are being complicit in calling women like Kesha a liar. That's a broad brush you are painting with, and it's not the same in every situation. Period. 

I'm sorry, my intention wasn't to paint everyone with a broad brush. Who called Kesha a liar, because that is just terrible?

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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enissa11
13 hours ago, stvn said:

Now, if someone chooses not to support ANYTHING that gives Luke money I respect that choice and their choice to do so. However, what you are saying just literally is not true. 

i made that choice, and for me is not hard at all because i happen to despise everything he produces, but you're totally correct, it's different to support someone that willingly works with dr.luke NOW, supports him, don't believe the victims and dismiss them, plus being her sole producer lol, it's not just about the money, it's about their political and ethical stances in the matter and how it affects the cause, even tho i sense that doja cat is not an Innocent prisoner either and is just more careful about her words and public perception, that's just what i sense.

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47 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

I'm sorry, my intention wasn't to paint everyone with a broad brush. Who called Kesha a liar, because that is just terrible?

Kim petras

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JusKeepBreathin
15 minutes ago, Suuus said:

Kim petras

Ok then I take it all back. 

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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LadyxGaGa

honestly this is good we have these discussions now cuz she has a new album coming out that we should deff not support esp since it will have dr luke on every track 

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She never flat out called Kesha a liar, she said she wouldn’t work with someone who she believed was an abuser of women. And then later recanted that statement and said while her experience of working with Dr Luke had been "positive", she did not want to "dismiss the experiences of others or suggest that multiple perspectives cannot exist at once." and that she herself never faced any kind of abuse from him.

I think my problem with all of this is also what tons of other people have pointed out, cancel her then cancel anybody he’s ever worked with.

I also remember reading somewhere that per her contact he gets writing credits for things she does even if he isn’t directly involved with the creation (which is the same as Doja I believe) so who knows how much she actually works with him now. 

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hELXIG

Kind of off topic, but the whole internet is just fake wokeness now. It's performative and leads to no positive change and people just do it to stroke their own egos rather than actually make a difference in the world. It's a mess

I'll be myself until they fūcking close the coffin.
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8 hours ago, Eros92 said:

She never flat out called Kesha a liar, she said she wouldn’t work with someone who she believed was an abuser of women. And then later recanted that statement and said while her experience of working with Dr Luke had been "positive", she did not want to "dismiss the experiences of others or suggest that multiple perspectives cannot exist at once." and that she herself never faced any kind of abuse from him.

I think my problem with all of this is also what tons of other people have pointed out, cancel her then cancel anybody he’s ever worked with.

I also remember reading somewhere that per her contact he gets writing credits for things she does even if he isn’t directly involved with the creation (which is the same as Doja I believe) so who knows how much she actually works with him now. 

This is literally an indirect way of saying that she doesnt believe kesha and the fact that she chose to work with him speaks for itself 

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ALGAYDO
On 2/22/2022 at 8:40 AM, gh0styguy said:

Just say you agree with her stance and move on.  

I really do think most Kim fans/apologists don’t give a fúck about rape victims. They just want shallow, generic bops. Not saying all are like that, obviously a good chunk of her fans don’t take that stance but the fact that so many willingly turn a blind eye to it is… sad

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LadyxGaGa
21 hours ago, ALGAYDO said:

I really do think most Kim fans/apologists don’t give a fúck about rape victims. They just want shallow, generic bops. Not saying all are like that, obviously a good chunk of her fans don’t take that stance but the fact that so many willingly turn a blind eye to it is… sad

this exactly, they pass this off as transphobic and like calling out other artists, its about holding kim accountable

and making her pay for her dumb choices. 

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ALGAYDO
3 hours ago, LadyxGaGa said:

this exactly, they pass this off as transphobic and like calling out other artists, its about holding kim accountable

and making her pay for her dumb choices. 

Exactly. Like, I don’t see anyone saying they want her to be destroyed, just to be held accountable for her words/actions. You don’t see them going after other trans artists like Sophie or Chase Icon. Why? Because they’re not saying/doing stupid things.

It’s like those people saying it’s racist to call out Dave Chappell for his homophobia. Like, no, don’t use someone’s identity as a means to excuse their shítty behavior. 

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Inferno

Listen, she gives zero f*cks about Kesha and the entire Luke situation. She sides with him. Shes made that clear over the years. Shes not a victim of being in contract with him, she wants to be in contract with him. That makes the difference and shows her character. Whether or not you personally support her anyway is up to you. But Kim stans need to stop deflecting from that fact.

As far as people continuing to stream past Luke songs, especially by Kesha, its important to remember THOSE ARE HER SONGS AS WELL. She wrote them, some with her mother, and some co produced. Those are her babies as well. They are her continued livelihood. Its not as simple as deflecting by saying "well you all still stream his music". Its not only his music and he is not the only one that profits off of the back catalogue. Its a complicated issue.

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Versace
7 hours ago, Inferno said:

Listen, she gives zero f*cks about Kesha and the entire Luke situation. She sides with him. Shes made that clear over the years. Shes not a victim of being in contract with him, she wants to be in contract with him. That makes the difference and shows her character. Whether or not you personally support her anyway is up to you. But Kim stans need to stop deflecting from that fact.

As far as people continuing to stream past Luke songs, especially by Kesha, its important to remember THOSE ARE HER SONGS AS WELL. She wrote them, some with her mother, and some co produced. Those are her babies as well. They are her continued livelihood. Its not as simple as deflecting by saying "well you all still stream his music". Its not only his music and he is not the only one that profits off of the back catalogue. Its a complicated issue.

Yea I agree the only reasonable exception is streaming Kesha’s catalogue since she’s the victim and is still under him unfortunately. I would encourage to buy her music though instead of stream it, as it seems to me like it profits Luke less in the long run but I could be wrong. 

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