Billy Porter reveals why he apologized to Harry Styles

[Bling 31,441]

Cringe 

Billy sis LET IT GOOOOOO

[HorusRa2 5,005]

2 hours ago, Fanta said:

Because Harry is part of the problem. He clearly has no issue presenting himself as what he perceives (at this point I believe is being told) is androgyny and gender bending. He wears the outfits like a costume for photoshoots and in everyday life he is another basic, masc allegedly straight white man. He brings nothing to the table and yet finds it fitting to appear on magazine covers as the gender bending revolutionary. You can't claim that all of this comes without some level of awareness of what he's trying to present, and that's the problem. Why is he okay being the white-washed face of a movement and community that has done the work for him?

At least Billy is an older, queer black individual who has been consistent in his image. It's not just Vogue saying Harry we want you, it's him practically cosplaying as androgynous and relishing in the brownie points he scores along the way.

No. Here is where you're wrong. Harry himself is not the problem. Billy already stated this. What you are equating is Harry's privilege's as Harry the person. You gotta separate the two. 

Billy is correct with the sense that there's erasure for POC when it comes to innovation, movements, etc. But you also cannot (at the same time) dismiss someone else from participating for the sake of lifting up voices that are systematically dismissed. There is room for both to be a quote 'leader' of a movement. What is wrong is the fact that the credit, prestige, accolades and opportunities aren't equitably distributed. 

That's the way I see it. It's perfectly fine if you disagree with me but based off of the above...unless you're got something to clarify I don't really agree with you at all. 

[Arcadia 1,366]

This one-sided feud is ddrrraaagggiiiinnngg

[LostBoyfriend 1,119]

I understand and support what he's saying. I wi however point out how is kinda egotistical to always somehow wanting to put himself on the spotlight.

Like yeah, what you're saying is completely valid but it looses strength when you end up saying "What I should have said to her was put me on the cover and let's have this conversation”. Miss darling, you're only known majorly in the US. If you wanna a POC people on the cover should be RuPaul, he's known and has expanded the art of drag way bigger than you with your non conforming to gender rules clothing, although fabolous is not as impacting as drag has become in Latin America and Philippines.

For me he's like 40% "fighting" for the right things, but the extra 60% seems to come out from his own ego, which ruins it for me even tho he's saying facts.

[Fanta 5,019]

1 hour ago, HorusRa2 said:

No. Here is where you're wrong. Harry himself is not the problem. Billy already stated this. What you are equating is Harry's privilege's as Harry the person. You gotta separate the two. 

Billy is correct with the sense that there's erasure for POC when it comes to innovation, movements, etc. But you also cannot (at the same time) dismiss someone else from participating for the sake of lifting up voices that are systematically dismissed. There is room for both to be a quote 'leader' of a movement. What is wrong is the fact that the credit, prestige, accolades and opportunities aren't equitably distributed. 

That's the way I see it. It's perfectly fine if you disagree with me but based off of the above...unless you're got something to clarify I don't really agree with you at all. 

Who is H*rry lifting up? As far as I know and see (and I don't mind being corrected) most of his fans are white teenage girls. Minus some of the users here thirsting over him (choices), he does not have an active queer fanbase nor does he influence us in any way besides when he dresses in skirts and suddenly that's supposed to be applicable and groundbreaking. There are many others I can look up to who don't exhibit androgyny only as a costume.

He can wear whatever he likes, but as far as he's concerned he and his privilege are one when he's not using his overrated platform to bring light to the real voices of the movement. It comes across as ignorant to imply H*rry and his privilege are separate when he hasn't even used his platform to uplift the queer community, specifically the fem-queer community, drag queens and the POC in our community that were at the forefront of making actual change. When you are an active participant of white privilege, it's part of you whether he and anyone who defends him likes it or not.

[Fanta 5,019]

3 hours ago, AnnaNicoleSmith said:

Harry Styles never said he was straight, I highly doubt that he is

And this is why I used words like seemingly and allegedly to describe his sexuality, we don't know and that's the point. He feels so confident wearing skirts and painting his nails but he does not want to address sexuality nor use his platform to champion for the people that actually matter: the ones that were unapologetic, loud and made way for him to express himself (I guess) freely.

It is unfair that he gets to experience the benefits of the people who put in the actual hard word (the queer community, fem gays, drag queens, POC) just because he's a masc-presenting white male with lots of fans. It's mediocrity at its best being celebrated and white privilege at its finest. Billie is right to be upset and I think he's backtracking because of the backlash he's getting. I'm sure some of H*rry's 13yr old white girl Stans have been in his DMs, and it doesn't help that some in our own community are shunning him for making valid points.

Y'all have got to get over the delivery and focus on the bigger picture, not you @AnnaNicoleSmith, I'm speaking in general.

[HorusRa2 5,005]

21 minutes ago, Fanta said:

Who is H*rry lifting up? As far as I know and see (and I don't mind being corrected) most of his fans are white teenage girls. Minus some of the users here thirsting over him (choices), he does not have an active queer fanbase nor does he influence us in any way besides when he dresses in skirts and suddenly that's supposed to be applicable and groundbreaking. There are many others I can look up to who don't exhibit androgyny only as a costume.

He can wear whatever he likes, but as far as he's concerned he and his privilege are one when he's not using his overrated platform to bring light to the real voices of the movement. It comes across as ignorant to imply H*rry and his privilege are separate when he hasn't even used his platform to uplift the queer community, specifically the fem-queer community, drag queens and the POC in our community that were at the forefront of making actual change. When you are an active participant of white privilege, it's part of you whether he and anyone who defends him likes it or not.

I just don't think that he's required to do what you're saying he needs to do and whether he does or does not doesn't actually change much. The issue is much broader than whether Harry does or does not do something. It feels to me that you're placing the blame on Harry when it's not really his to carry. 

If you cannot separate one person and privilege as a concept, that's also not my problem. And the kind of societal changes that need to take place isn't going to change because of Harry Styles and anything he might do. Sorry, but it's the truth. At any rate, the kind of systemic issues with regard to this 'movement' is largely less important than the division of class and wealth also within the same system. So, I'm not really going to go back and forth on this because it's really and truthfully less important to me than the gap of wealth between people of color and whites. And the fact that it's so drastic. Now that would be a conversation. But I had it many times during the 2020 primaries but was bashed for being too radical and unwilling to be content with mediocre candidates. 

[FameHookah 4,614]

Isnt harry bi?

[Dante 878]

He needs to get over himself and stop acting like he's the first man to ever wear a dress. And "gaslighting" lmao stfu

[ItWasntLaauv 6,392]

Y’all are taking sides, I’m just here chowing on some snacks lol.

[papergangster 2,753]

32 minutes ago, ItWasntLaauv said:

Y’all are taking sides, I’m just here chowing on some snacks lol.

What kind of snacks tho? 

[NichuuB 43,788]

14 minutes ago, papergangster said:

What kind of snacks tho? 

TEA candies

[Fanta 5,019]

1 hour ago, HorusRa2 said:

I just don't think that he's required to do what you're saying he needs to do and whether he does or does not doesn't actually change much. The issue is much broader than whether Harry does or does not do something. It feels to me that you're placing the blame on Harry when it's not really his to carry. 

If you cannot separate one person and privilege as a concept, that's also not my problem. And the kind of societal changes that need to take place isn't going to change because of Harry Styles and anything he might do. Sorry, but it's the truth. At any rate, the kind of systemic issues with regard to this 'movement' is largely less important than the division of class and wealth also within the same system. So, I'm not really going to go back and forth on this because it's really and truthfully less important to me than the gap of wealth between people of color and whites. And the fact that it's so drastic. Now that would be a conversation. But I had it many times during the 2020 primaries but was bashed for being too radical and unwilling to be content with mediocre candidates. 

Of course, you're totally right. We might as well just stop talking about things that matter, celebrities too, because whether or not they say something doesn't really matter - especially because you can only exclusively support one cause and nothing else...by your 'logic' of course.

[thatfoxyfeeling 13,017]

2 hours ago, Fanta said:

Who is H*rry lifting up? As far as I know and see (and I don't mind being corrected) most of his fans are white teenage girls. Minus some of the users here thirsting over him (choices), he does not have an active queer fanbase nor does he influence us in any way besides when he dresses in skirts and suddenly that's supposed to be applicable and groundbreaking. There are many others I can look up to who don't exhibit androgyny only as a costume.

He can wear whatever he likes, but as far as he's concerned he and his privilege are one when he's not using his overrated platform to bring light to the real voices of the movement. It comes across as ignorant to imply H*rry and his privilege are separate when he hasn't even used his platform to uplift the queer community, specifically the fem-queer community, drag queens and the POC in our community that were at the forefront of making actual change. When you are an active participant of white privilege, it's part of you whether he and anyone who defends him likes it or not.

Honestly I feel like you're the one coming across as arrogant assuming that Harry isn't androgynous and that it's all a "costume" for him. That'd be like saying Gaga's 'The Fame' persona was all an act and she didn't use her platform to uplift the queer community. Harry HAS been uplifting the queer community, he's inspiring young queer fans to wear whatever the **** they want to wear and it doesn't matter how you identify. 

[Fanta 5,019]

6 minutes ago, thatfoxyfeeling said:

Honestly I feel like you're the one coming across as arrogant assuming that Harry isn't androgynous and that it's all a "costume" for him. That'd be like saying Gaga's 'The Fame' persona was all an act and she didn't use her platform to uplift the queer community. Harry HAS been uplifting the queer community, he's inspiring young queer fans to wear whatever the **** they want to wear and it doesn't matter how you identify. 

It never ceases to amaze me that no matter how many replies and comments I leave, and no matter how detailed they are, there will always be someone who responds as the point hovers over their head. The queer community's feminine gays, androgynous-presenting individuals, and drag queens would like a word - because that's what you call impact. Now if you'll excuse me, my arrogant ass has nothing else to say.