HuffsAhoy 7,433 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Sandrology said: Gurl, I love you but beeing a stan is getting an aftertaste for me I don't like... Thank god Academy Award and 12 time Grammy Winner Lady Gaga doesn't care what you think. Fans like you can stay pressed as a panini while Gaga continues hitting out-of-the-park homeruns. You remind me that it's such a wonderful thing to love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
illySpencer 1,434 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 40 minutes ago, Runway said: How is it a waste when she’s delivering a music video It's will be not an official single, no promo from her, no live, no radio deal. Yes very interresting... But I guess it's okay for you. For me it's not, and you and your others friends should respect that, unless you don't know what a forum is ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, illySpencer said: It's will be not an official single, no promo from her, no live, no radio deal. Yes very interresting... But I guess it's okay for you. For me it's not, and you and your others friends should respect that, unless you don't know what a forum is ? Then don’t watch the video when its out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuffsAhoy 7,433 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, illySpencer said: It's will be not an official single, no promo from her, no live, no radio deal. How do you know this? Nothing about the film has been announced except a release date. You remind me that it's such a wonderful thing to love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoful 13,304 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Gaga does love gifting us stuff around Easter (Judas, The Cure) maybe we’ll get Haus Labs Babylon "My name is Dita, I'll be your Mistress tonight..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Freud 5,666 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 6 hours ago, GucciGa said: So you're mad she's making money? 😅 You do realise that you don't have to pay attention or care about everything she does... Yet still be a fan? The entitlement of assuming that she owes you anything is remarkable, that her business dealings need your approval or to meet your moral code. She is a business woman. You need to understand that. You would be jumping for joy to see her walking down a NYC street dripping in jewels and the most expensive designer clothes yet you don't approve of her business deals to afford that lifestyle. Who do you think is gonna pay for a Gaga x Nick Knight collab? They could do it for a music video that y'all will watch twice and criticise and thrn move on to wanting "more". Everything is so disposable with stans these days. I guarantee if she had had a normal Chromatica rollout a lot of you would be OK.. Next? I for one am glad she is getting paid, and paid good. Gaga knows how up and down the music industry is. She knows how these brands only want what's hot at the moment. She is making the most of her star power after another career peak. She knows the 7.5m deals won't necessarily be around forever. Maybe look outside your stan bubble and see things from her perspective. It's a whole lot more fun to a be a fan when you view things from the perspective of her being a smart business woman whose artistry has put her in the position to be flooded with brand deals. She's worked her ass off. She has plans for the future that will cost money. She is responsible for paying many people's bills. If you think she's doing that based on Spotify stream revenue then please educate yourself. She would have no interest in your attempt at belittling her ambition and worth. The music is there. After that she doesn't you or me anything. Now imma go eat some Gaga oreo cookies with my tea! 6 hours ago, Dayman said: Ad campaigns pay her for her artistry though. There's a reason why some of her most elaborate visuals are tied to ad campaigns. Or even reasons why music videos have product tie ins whether minor product placement or something significant like being shot on iPhone. High caliber visuals don't come for free - so why not bring out your best when someone else is footing the bill? 5 hours ago, Magic Mike said: I actually think it was brilliantly made. It’s ironic, and very L. G. 5 hours ago, LastNight said: I can understand where you're coming from as there have been a lot of paid sponsorships recently, but I think fans forget that she has literally been doing this the entirety of her career; it isn't anything new. From Polaroid, to all the ad spots in the Telephone video, her water PSA in exchange for using Hearst Castle, Doritos sponsoring her SXSW set, the Bud Light dive bar tour, alcohol companies sponsoring VIP sections at her tours, all the way up to the recent brand deals during the Chromatica era; she has consistently worked with brands to market herself and create her art. She's been incredibly business savvy and has always leveraged brand partnerships to achieve what she wants. Music videos are expensive, making albums is expensive, being responsible for dozens of employees' livelihoods is expensive; streaming doesn't make artists as much money, touring has been on hold for at least a year, she only gets a certain amount from the label as a budget and the rest is up to her - when you look at it from that point of view I think it starts to make more sense. As for whether she is wasting her artistry on these things, I'd actually argue the opposite. She gets to creative direct the project, use her own music and promote her album, work with her own team to make art she cares about and collects a multi-million dollar cheque for it. Let's not forget she also gets these companies to donate to her Foundation. Anyone would be a fool to turn opportunities like this down. They give her the freedom to make what she wants. I've said it before, but her keynote speak at SXSW a few years ago is well worth a re-watch. She talks about the state of the music industry and why brand deals are essential for artists in this day and age. 5 hours ago, numb the flame said: I think in previous eras these brand deals were never so in your face if you will whereas during Chromatica it's been much of what she posts on her social medias. Thanks to yall for handling this conversation mostly with respect. I don't want to sound pressed as a oreo, and I actually share a lot of your points. I have nothing against promo itself if it makes sense in her artistry. But for me it is sad that she is using her voice and platform in the last month to promote articles and products instead of sharing her music that is worth attention and shoutout. I have a lot of respect for her that during BLM-movement and Covid she put her PR for Chromatica in the back, but it saddens me as a fan that then she can talk about "cookies with kindness". to quote @numb the flame I think in previous eras these brand deals were never so in your face if you will whereas during Chromatica it's been much of what she posts on her social medias. Just open up her Insta feed. I see her promoting alcohol, perfume, make up... As a fan I get excited to see Gaga posting something just to realize it is yet another sponsored post instead of promoting an album worth of posting about. I'm an OG Gaga-fan, and maybe I'm a bit spolied by the BTW era, where there is nearlly no promo in any MV, while putting her as an artist and her artistry up front. I never had a problem when Doritos or Budlight sponsoring a tour or a set, cause it finances her artistry indirectly. She's still in the front. I think my problem is really within the promo on social media which doesn't put Gaga and her project up front but other products that try to use her image and fame. For me personally, it takes from her authenticity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 12 minutes ago, Sandrology said: But for me it is sad that she is using her voice and platform in the last month to promote articles and products instead of sharing her music that is worth attention and shoutout. That's because the album came out in May 2020, not last month. To quote you, "just open up her Insta feed" and scroll back to release week/month/year. She put out plenty of content for Chromatica, including photoshoots, interviews, behind the scenes videos, promo videos, and so much more, but for some reason you are choosing to ignore that. 12 minutes ago, Sandrology said: I'm a bit spolied by the BTW era Your whole argument is based on the posts she makes on her Instagram, but Instagram didn't exist during the BTW era. If it did, she would post about Farmville, Virgin Mobile, Beats by Dre etc., just like she does about Haus Labs, Tudor, and Oreo today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVeryGagaHolyDick 25,680 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Admin said: Your whole argument is based on the posts she makes on her Instagram, but Instagram didn't exist during the BTW era. If it did, she would post about Farmville, Virgin Mobile, Beats by Dre etc., just like she does about Haus Labs, Tudor, and Oreo today. I agree with both of you to some extent, and I don't want to see you fight or whatever, however, even though you made a point with the words I quoted, it also works the other way around: Chromatica promo almost doesn't exist outside of Instagram Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitleysingur 13,789 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 We finally get some promo and yet you guys are still complaining. Dreams of you and me are in the dirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Smith 10,026 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 43 minutes ago, shoful said: Gaga does love gifting us stuff around Easter (Judas, The Cure) maybe we’ll get Haus Labs Babylon Hi Hermiona Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, KEVIN STEVE said: I agree with both of you to some extent, and I don't want to see you fight or whatever, however, even though you made a point with the words I quoted, it also works the other way around: Chromatica promo almost doesn't exist outside of Instagram That's not true, the only thing that doesn't exist promo-wise is performances. There has been plenty of photoshoots, interviews, promo videos, merch, a radio show, and so much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoful 13,304 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Karen Smith said: Hi Hermiona "My name is Dita, I'll be your Mistress tonight..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewUsername 11,420 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Oh my god Happy to see it hadn't been scrapped! This picture is amazing, so excited for the the film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magui 2,628 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Why the hell when finally we have new stuff, a glimpse that things regarding Chromatica are having development, there's so much arguing and "shadiness"? I thought that everyone was celebrating here lol. Turns out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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