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Gagaloo911

These neoliberals and deluded centrists really never learn anything from their losses, do they. :ladyhaha:

Have fun continuing to lose, like the House next in 2022 and the WH in 2024, I guess.

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Why are we saying Biden has no shot at Georgia anymore? All the polls and betting markets have him at an 85% chance winning Georgia

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Sloansabbith
8 minutes ago, Gagaloo911 said:

These neoliberals and deluded centrists really never learn anything from their losses, do they. :ladyhaha:

Have fun continuing to lose, like the House next in 2022 and the WH in 2024, I guess.

I’m actually a Libertarian sometimes Rockefeller Republican. But I’ve voted Democrat in Presidential elections all my life dude to social issues. 

I didn’t want or vote for Biden and Harris because I liked them or their policies LOL. I supported them because Trump had to go and they could get the job done.

I’m sorry it wasn’t up to YOU standards and you won’t be getting free college. 

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Pennywise

Also, have I ever told y'all just how much I hate Pelosi? Such a republican in sheep's clothing 

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So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted.
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JusKeepBreathin
7 minutes ago, Gagaloo911 said:

These neoliberals and deluded centrists really never learn anything from their losses, do they. :ladyhaha:

Have fun continuing to lose, like the House next in 2022 and the WH in 2024, I guess.

How many times did Bernie lose again?

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr.
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caulixtla
8 minutes ago, Sloansabbith said:

More propaganda. The polling was off in Florida yes, but was not far off everywhere is. There is always a regular margin of error. 

It’s unhealthy to keep holding onto 2016 like this. 

It was 8 points off in WI and MI, 5 points off in PA. In the entire rust belt, we saw Biden have comfortable leads in the polls. Instead, we got three nail biters.

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Pennywise
1 minute ago, Sloansabbith said:

you won’t be getting free college

Not you saying this as if it'd be bad :billie:

I really don't get Americans and their obsession of a false freedom where they are only slaves of the corporate machine that drives every industry in their country :huntyga:

So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted.
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Sloansabbith
Just now, Pennywise said:

Not you saying this as if it'd be bad :billie:

I really don't get Americans and their obsession of a false freedom where they are only slaves of the corporate machine that drives every industry in their country :huntyga:

No it’s not that I think it’s bad at all. But I don’t think you can get it passed through and it turns off moderates and independents WHO YOU NEED TO WIN. 

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Chromatican
13 minutes ago, Sloansabbith said:

More propaganda. The polling was off in Florida yes, but was not far off everywhere is. There is always a regular margin of error. 

It’s unhealthy to keep holding onto 2016 like this. 

Biden had a ten point lead according to polls. The last time a president had a ten point lead the map looked like this:

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The polls were off in 2016 and they were off in 2020. When mainstream media outlets and daytime talk shows begin calling the polls unreliable you know they are bs. Good luck trying to pull off a win this way again without any tangible enthusiasm for a candidate and without an economic crisis and another failed response to a global pandemic.

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Sloansabbith
2 minutes ago, caulixtla said:

It was 8 points off in WI and MI, 5 points off in PA. In the entire rust belt, we saw Biden have comfortable leads in the polls. Instead, we got three nail biters.

You need to wait and see how the final numbers all come out. I would bet it won’t be that far off. 

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Pennywise
Just now, Sloansabbith said:

No it’s not that I think it’s bad at all. But I don’t think you can get it passed through and it turns off moderates and independents WHO YOU NEED TO WIN. 

But didn't this specific election show that the Democrat strategy of pandering to moderates and republicans does not work? Am I missing something? I mean sure, voter turnout increased, but that only meant Trump increased his votes as well. 

So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted.
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Gagaloo911
20 minutes ago, Sloansabbith said:

More propaganda. The polling was off in Florida yes, but was not far off everywhere is. There is always a regular margin of error. 

It’s unhealthy to keep holding onto 2016 like this. 

Wtf are you talking about??

RCP and FiveThirtyEight had in the average of polls that Biden was up 8 points in WI and MI, and as high as 4.7 in PA yet how did that turn out? Some polls had Biden up by 10 points in these  :smh:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/michigan/

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/wisconsin/

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/pennsylvania/

Polling averages had Susan Collins losing for months, and yet she won reelection with an 8 point margin. 

National poll averages had Biden winning the popular vote by 8-10 points or even higher margin, yet he's likely to only have a 3-4 point margin win.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/

With the exception of few states like Colorado, polling was off massively this year, in fact off more so than even in 2016. Look it up. That's just the facts.

The only one gaslighting and spreading propaganda in here is you and others talking nonsense like this.

And the bottom line is polling is just not it and should not be relied on anymore.

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Sloansabbith
Just now, Chromatican said:

Biden had a ten point lead according to polls. The last time a president had a ten point lead the map looked like this:

1980_large.png

The polls were off in 2016 and they were off in 2020. When mainstream media outlets and daytime talk shows begin calling the polls unreliable you know they are bs. Good luck trying to pull off a win this way without any tangible enthusiasm for a candidate and without an economic crisis and another failed response to a global pandemic.

The country looked like that in 1980 because Carter’s approval rating was as low as 29% before the election. 

Biden did not have the loud enthusiasm that Obama had in 2008. It was a silent majority this time. 

I’m taking the win. If people still want to cry about it and believe that someone like AOC can get elected as POTUS in the next 10 years that’s their problem. 

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