andy 106 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 If these Republicans hate Trump this much, then they probably didn't vote for him the first time. So no new votes there and no inspiration. #MalibuGaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankpaper 21 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, andy said: If these Republicans hate Trump this much, then they probably didn't vote for him the first time. So no new votes there and no inspiration. There are a lot of moderate republicans who voted party line in 2016 but have since woken up to how destructive he is reality’s tight if the music is right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy 106 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, blankpaper said: There are a lot of moderate republicans who voted party line in 2016 but have since woken up to how destructive he is It's speculation and anecdotal. There were plenty of those statements going into 2016 of never Trumper republicans and we see how that turned out. November is when we will see the numbers of how/if districts flipped. #MalibuGaga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Dont let politicians use fear to get your vote, use that fear against them and force them to earn your vote. Dont let them use someone like Trump as a weapon against you, you should use Trump as a weapon against them. Change the narrative from blaming voters for Trumps win, to blaming the Democratic party for Trumps win because they refuse to represent their own voters. Tell them if you want to win next time, you must earn our vote. Tell them you are not scared of Trump if the other choice is someone like Biden. Yes Trump might win now, but long term thinking, progressives will have power and change the Democratic party forever. But if you continue to vote for the better of two evils, the Democratic party might take 2-3 decades to change. You will have to wait for all the old people to die then you can possibly win. The whole purpose of a Democracy is to give voters the power to control the system. But today it seems like Democracy is being used against the voters and people are going along with it! Democracy only works when people are educated politically and understand the power they have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOSK 640 Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, ItWasntLaauv said: I mean, I know I’m not voting for Trump, and Biden is the only one who has a chance. So I mean it’s obvious who to vote for, even though I would much rather vote for Bernie. Not voting for Biden is just asking for another Trump term. I think I can speak for most us when I say that we would rather anyone else other than Trump. Yeah, most people would say it's obvious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togekiss 3,131 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 11 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Its time for Biden and the Democratic party to earn the progressive vote, not the other way around. If Biden loses, its because he did not do a great job at earning his own party votes. Well the progressive wing of the party apparently doesn’t turn out enough to nominate their candidate. The facts as they stand are Biden vs. Trump. Pinch your nose if you must but refusing to vote for Biden might as well be a vote for Trump. Keep in mind that there is a lot of money being spent on social media, ads, etc. designed specifically to make Democratic voters disinterested or disengaged... and it’s Trump who benefits from it. Baskin Robbins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 America is the only country in the world where the media will say it is the people fault someone didn't get elected If Biden loses the progressive vote it's the people fault? If Trump wins you will blame the voters? Not the loser candidate for being a bad choice? LMAO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOSK 640 Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share Posted April 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, andy said: If these Republicans hate Trump this much, then they probably didn't vote for him the first time. So no new votes there and no inspiration. Like a snowball rolling down a hill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blankpaper 21 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, andy said: It's speculation and anecdotal. There were plenty of those statements going into 2016 of never Trumper republicans and we see how that turned out. November is when we will see the numbers of how/if districts flipped. I’m not saying there’s necessarily enough of them to flip an election or something. Hopefully, but I’m not counting on it. But I personally know quite a few people who voted trump for the economy or whatever, and now they’re planning to vote for either a moderate democrat or not vote, so there’s definitely people like that out there reality’s tight if the music is right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Togekiss said: Pinch your nose if you must but refusing to vote for Biden might as well be a vote for Trump. Refusing to vote for Trump might as well be a vote for Biden. Checkmate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Biden 5,898 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 19 minutes ago, MingersPrayer said: Surely this is a predictable turn of events? Biden has pretty right wing leanings. I would expect that moderate Republicans do want him in power. Biden is pro gay rights, supports the minimum wage/union/public healthcare/Social Security, is very supportive of gun control and will repeal Trump’s “tax bill”. Those ain't Conservative views hun I got drunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Togekiss 3,131 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Just now, Azor Ahai said: Refusing to vote for Trump might as well be a vote for Biden. Checkmate! Except the incumbent has an inherent advantage, nice try at being qt tho Baskin Robbins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Biden 5,898 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, andy said: If these Republicans hate Trump this much, then they probably didn't vote for him the first time. So no new votes there and no inspiration. not true ik a lot of Republicans who backed Trump last time but are totally DONE with him. Obama-Trump voters are gonna back Biden I got drunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Togekiss said: Except the incumbent has an inherent advantage, nice try at being qt tho Was there an incumbent in 2016? People used the exact same arguements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, President Biden said: Biden is pro gay rights, supports the minimum wage/union/public healthcare/Social Security, is very supportive of gun control and will repeal Trump’s “tax bill”. Those ain't Conservative views hun Trump is also "pro-gay" and has many gay followers, despite the fact his policies are ****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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