Billboard: AOTY, Leaders, Contenders & Possibilities

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24 minutes ago, Rainbow1 said:

I highly doubt it’s even going to get nominated for aoty

Why do you say that? 

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Not surprised at the people here who don't understand the significance of Homecoming nor the history of live albums at the Grammys.

ASIB should be nominated though.

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Billboard never get it right so.....

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On 5/31/2019 at 9:20 PM, androiduser said:

ASIB will be really old news by the time nominations are announced, over a year old.... other albums will overshadow it. They really could have released it before the movie to catch the 2018/2019 deadline

I realise that but there have been plenty of albums that have been old news by the time nominations come around over the years. It's one of the biggest criticisms of the Grammys, actually. Because of the weird September deadline, (instead of counting it in a January-December standard calendar timeline) it means that, frequently, albums are nominated that are more like 1.5 years old and are therefore not as currently relevent as others and not everyone likes that. But rules are rules. Taylor's 1989 and Adele's 25 won well over a year past their initial release which caused somewhat of a confusion. I don't think it's right that the album that wins best of the year doesn't need to have been released that year. But that's just the way it works. Therefore, ASIB won't necessarily be in the "too old to be considered or win" category. At the end of the day, I can think of very few albums released in this period that have caused enough of fuss to be in with a chance other than ASIB and next time, we'll have more nominees for this award than ever before. Remember that ASIB is one of the best selling albums of the last year, which is always a major factor in getting a nomination.

23 hours ago, Gagaplayer315 said:

By this logic they owe Gaga this AOTY for what they did to Born This Way  

By that logic, they owe Gaga this AOTY for what they did to ARTPOP, more like. I'm long over the idea that the Grammys feel like they "owe" an artist anything. I used to think that's how they worked it, but not anymore. They may give awards to make up for a snub the previous year or in delayed gratification for a recent hit (they totally did that with Gaga this year because of her success with ASIB, let's be serious - no way would they have given Joanne the time of day for a pop solo performance consideration had the public not kicked up the stink they did about having so few female winners the previous year). But the awards probably won't be as big an honour as AOTY. That's more of an Oscars thing to do.

23 hours ago, Vroom Vroom said:

Literally Adele (the AOTY winner that year) said that Lemonade deserved to win. That is a huge message to the world that Beyoncé got cheated. 

Gaga not winning for TF or TFM was not a  controversy. That’s just a matter of opinion if she was snubbed or not, and Gaga didn’t have a huge history with the Grammys at that point. 

Beyoncé is a 23 time Grammy winner. It’s her time to deservingly snatch AOTY. Also, this will clear the air in the future when Beyoncé releases more bodies of work because it won’t feel like the Grammys will “owe” her anything anymore.

Adele made a proper fool of herself that night by saying what she did. If anything, the Grammys will be really maddened that she tried to tell them what to think and implied that they made the wrong choice. Adele even said that she wished Beyonce were her mummy in her speech. Hardly a moment to take seriously.

Gaga losing back then was a controversy. She and Beyonce were considered to have been majorly snubbed because neither of them won that night, they were the only two names that were cited as being snubbed. It was also considered a snub by many that she didn't win for TFM - most said it was either her or Lady Antebellum that got snubbed. Considering Arcade Fire had only won one other award that night, naturally, there was a big feeling of a snub among many. I hoped she'd been in with a huge chance of winning with BTW considering her last 2 back to back albums failed to and the Grammys maybe felt like they "owed" her, as you say, but no, not even a single win that night, nothing for AP. Not even an AOTY nod for Joanne. They've never felt like they've owed her, so I don't know why you feel Beyonce should be treated any differently.

Just so you know, only 5 live albums have ever won in the Grammy's 60 year history. Those dates were 1961, 1962, 1973, 1993 and 1995. The last live album to get nominated was in 1995 (there were 2 live albums up for the award that year) and the last live album to get nominated where it was the only live album in the category was in 1977. So, its been 24 years since a live album won/got nominated. I think it's safe to say then that this concept have become extremely outdated and the current Grammy academy think that only albums made in the here and now should be allowed to be nominated, that it's not fair to the artists who made new music last year.

If anything, the fact she's a 23 time winner should be a reason why she doesn't need AOTY. If I had the choice between Gaga winning AOTY and then never winning anything again vs. never winning AOTY but becoming the most awarded female in Grammy history, I know which one I'd choose. You may say that the academy and Beyonce fans will no feel that no one "owes" her anything anymore if she won but I don't buy it. Her fans think she's the queen. They aren't happy unless she's slaying the competition every time. I don't think for a minute that they'll stop demanding further Grammys till the day she retires.

18 hours ago, ZacharyMark said:

Not surprised at the people here who don't understand the significance of Homecoming nor the history of live albums at the Grammys.

It's not that we don't understand the significance, we just don't think it's right or fair that a live album (based on an already acclaimed studio album) should compete against new bodies of work released last year. As I said above as regards the history of live albums, only 5 have ever won and the last one was in 1995 with no nominations since. Clearly, it was an old concept that was accepted once but times have moved on and the academy no longer think it's suitable to give artists a second chance with old work. Not saying it's impossible for her to get nominated/win but don't get your hopes up.