Is Xtina the martyr of pop?

[sipthistea 21,099]

Xtina's career since Keeps Getting Better seems to have been difficult due to her personal struggles and the critical and commercial reception of her last 3 records. Since Bionic, Xtina has failed to make a big impression and many of her fans just turned their back on her. The media did the same, and now she's struggling to sell her new album Liberation. 

Do u think Xtina is a martyr in pop music? 

[Yuuri 21,636]

Gaga is. She's dying for the art.

 

[sipthistea 21,099]

Just now, Sharyu said:

Gaga is. She's dying for the art.

 

You got the reference from the source. But honestly, I believe Xtina is the true martyr. 

[migamiga 12,102]

I read the first sentence as "xtina's career keeps getting better" 

[sipthistea 21,099]

1 minute ago, F AM E said:

I read the first sentence as "xtina's career keeps getting better" 

The irony. 

[LOVE JUNKIE 3,299]

My thoughts on the matter:

http://gagadaily.com/forums/topic/269767-everything-is-flopping-this-2018/?page=7&tab=comments#comment-10425364

 

[RAMROD 109,618]

No, she is not a martyr, nobody is. 

Xtine just need better management and better albums. These two things must go together. Only one of them will not do. You can record he best album ever but with poor management, it will not be heard enough. And you can have the best manager in the world, but with weak music, it won't sell.

She did lots more promo for Liberation era so that is a step on the right direction. The new album is decent, but it is not strong enough to bring her to the forefront of the music. She needed an album that can bring her the second wind for her career, Madonna has it with Ray of Light, and Britney has it with Circus for examples.

[vertigostick 2,448]

No. Just a flop.

[AnnTakamaki 6,871]

13 minutes ago, F AM E said:

I read the first sentence as "xtina's career keeps getting better" 

hold on 

[DiscoHeaven23 35,007]

She'd be a martyr if she could actually create decent art this decade.

 

Let's be honest, she hasn't delivered in the 10s like she did in the 00s (and I'm talking creatively).

 

 

[PunkTheFunk 124,449]

Yes, her career died so our ears could live

[Yuuri 21,636]

4 minutes ago, PunkTheFunk said:

Yes, her career died so our ears could live

We love to live in the generation with a self sacrificing woman.

[tomsches 17,399]

meh... Christina has never been truly commercially successful. She has always been a household name, but I remember in the late 90s when she and Britney came out at the same time they were compared a lot, but she didn't come close to Britney. 

[Jaume 1,282]

1 hour ago, RAMROD said:

No, she is not a martyr, nobody is. 

Xtine just need better management and better albums. These two things must go together. Only one of them will not do. You can record he best album ever but with poor management, it will not be heard enough. And you can have the best manager in the world, but with weak music, it won't sell.

She did lots more promo for Liberation era so that is a step on the right direction. The new album is decent, but it is not strong enough to bring her to the forefront of the music. She needed an album that can bring her the second wind for her career, Madonna has it with Ray of Light, and Britney has it with Circus for examples.

Circus? Are you joking? britney's best album it is either In the zone or blackout, circus is nothing to talk about... and well  both have end up being like a joke but you can't compare them: Britney gave us such a brilliant start with so many pop  classics  but is someone who is really medicated, can't promote, can't give interviews and never sings live. I don't think anybody beside her fans gives her any credibility.

 

Xtina had everything: she could sing, she could dance more or less and she had attitude. She wasn't ugly but she had a lot of bad style choices.

Her first album sold well and she was everywhere with her Latin and Christmas album and with some collaborations. She did right with Stripped, which is a classic pop album. B2B is such a good album but wasn't prompted right. It sold well and the tour was successful.

 

Everything started to go wrong when she released her GH, it was too soon. Bionic wasn't bad, but she got through a divorce and wasn't promoted at all.

Then she got fat and fat and  her voice started to get worse and worse... the media was so mean to her with the Gaga comparison... she said some comments that were not not very kind on her ("I don't know if he is a male or a woman...) that buried Bionic, everyone hated her 10 years ago.

Then she focused on The Voice and she released Lotus, worst album ever... with the worst promotion... She couldn't sing back then. She had the worst performances... She was so fat that she couldn't move. As a fan it was so painful to see.

She abandoned the album quickly and got back to The Voice. 6 years recording music that surely her label rejected.

Liberation is such a good album but the problem is Xtina herself: once again she has gained a lot of weight and when that happens, her voice suffers. She can't barely sing now... Her performances are not good. Too many years of alcohol and surely some drugs... her voice is over. Then her best friends are some of her Stripped dancers, her coreographer, her hairdresser, surely people that always say what she wants to hear. Accelerate is cool but then you see the video and damn, it's embarrassing, she did the same 10 years ago with Not Myself Tonight.

She has focused on her family too, her children and she left her music career and that is why it's not doing well. I'm sad that she is struggling to sell both album and tour  tickets.

At least I think she has a great attitude for TV... but she fu**ed up when she has talked sh*t about The Voice... now who wants her on their show ?

[RAMROD 109,618]

3 minutes ago, Jaume said:

Circus? Are you joking? britney's best album it is either In the zone or blackout, circus is nothing to talk about... and well  both have end up being like a joke but you can't compare them: Britney gave us such a brilliant start with so many pop  classics  but is someone who is really medicated, can't promote, can't give interviews and never sings live. I don't think anybody beside her fans gives her any credibility.

 

Xtina had everything: she could sing, she could dance more or less and she had attitude. She wasn't ugly but she had a lot of bad style choices.

Her first album sold well and she was everywhere with her Latin and Christmas album and with some collaborations. She did right with Stripped, which is a classic pop album. B2B is such a good album but wasn't prompted right. It sold well and the tour was successful.

 

Everything started to go wrong when she released her GH, it was too soon. Bionic wasn't bad, but she got through a divorce and wasn't promoted at all.

Then she got fat and fat and  her voice started to get worse and worse... the media was so mean to her with the Gaga comparison... she said some comments that were not not very kind on her ("I don't know if he is a male or a woman...) that buried Bionic, everyone hated her 10 years ago.

Then she focused on The Voice and she released Lotus, worst album ever... with the worst promotion... She couldn't sing back then. She had the worst performances... She was so fat that she couldn't move. As a fan it was so painful to see.

She abandoned the album quickly and got back to The Voice. 6 years recording music that surely her label rejected.

Liberation is such a good album but the problem is Xtina herself: once again she has gained a lot of weight and when that happens, her voice suffers. She can't barely sing now... Her performances are not good. Too many years of alcohol and surely some drugs... her voice is over. Then her best friends are some of her Stripped dancers, her coreographer, her hairdresser, surely people that always say what she wants to hear. Accelerate is cool but then you see the video and damn, it's embarrassing, she did the same 10 years ago with Not Myself Tonight.

She has focused on her family too, her children and she left her music career and that is why it's not doing well. I'm sad that she is struggling to sell both album and tour  tickets.

At least I think she has a great attitude for TV... but she fu**ed up when she has talked sh*t about The Voice... now who wants her on their show ?

I am talking about second wind not best album.