Is It Time To Say Goodbye To PopGa For Good?

[ArtGagaPop 61,940]

The cure, her most recent release says hi 

[just another gay 836]

POP doesn't mean only dance music tho, Joanne by every standard, is POP

[RochestrMonstr 3,193]

If she's still putting out music like The Cure, it's extremely safe to say she's still interested in making Pop Music. Even Joanne was pop. 

She can make other kinds of music and still make pop, it's not like she needs to be locked into one category. 

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1 hour ago, Ferrer Zorola said:

Commercially speaking that would damage her pop sales so much and I doubt her rock releases would be successes

well she isn't doing electronic pop music now (minus the cure) but it still sold/is still selling. Joanne didn't even ride the current Pop/RnB trend.

I think now that she had made it known to everyone that she can and will mold her voice into different genres, she now has the chance to explore out of the Pop genre and dwell into the luscious landscapes of rock.

People are here for her talent. Now they want her to do something real cool with it.

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2 hours ago, Indyl said:

This!

When I think of the typical American popstar as most would imagine, Britney Spears comes to mind... Katy Perry... Selena Gomez... Justin Timberlake... Ed Sheeran... but Gaga is somehow different from other mainstream pop acts, and has been since the start of her career (truthfully, in the same way that Madonna is, and that Kanye is separated from mainstream hip hop). 

She can't do basic pop because she has never done basic pop, and that wouldn't be staying true to who she is as an artist.

I agree, but "She can't do basic pop because she has never done basic pop, and that wouldn't be staying true to who she is as an artist." what is this

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2 hours ago, JustaMonster said:

I think we gotta wait until LG6 to really see if she will go back or not.

Mte.

[Altair 2,000]

Last night at the tour, she said that she promises about "20 - 30 more years of this" 

Sooooo....

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2 hours ago, sipthistea said:

With Joanne, it was very clear that she wanted to go for a more rock sound that allowed her to display her emotions

I don't know if pop fans would agree, but I have always felt that rock allows for more emotion than pop.  Of course there are exceptions, but in general I get very emotional over rock.

OT, I thing LG6 is as likely to be rock/metal or jazz as it is to be pop.  It's a toss-up, imo. I hope she does what frees herself.

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I think saying goodbye to PopGa means saying goodbye to mainstream Gaga with high budget music videos, tours and performances as well. I know everyone here wants to pretend to care about what she personally wants and it's cute, but let's be realistic, Lady Gaga became Lady Gaga because she craved the fame and the spotlight. Hell she herself called her album The Fame Monster and she sang "I live for the Applause". Changing that to a "I'm not a money-making machine" attitude and making something totally differently will end up alienating her fan base, hell it already did, as I see a lot of people today are a hell lot less dedicated and defensive of her as they were back during the BTW era, and if she continues down that road she will soon not even be a money-making machine for herself, let a lone a big label.

Lady Gaga is a very talented women. She can sing, dance perform, act, dress, shock..etc. and she can even borrow stuff from other artists and look fine doing it, despite the controversies. But she got where she is because of shock value. In the world of pop, people hardly care about talent, unless someone somehow got lucky like Adele and made it to mainstream music with ballads and powerful lyrics and no sex. And as much as you wanna deny it, Gaga got famous because she shocked people with her outfits, the shock value was like a bubble that eventually popped. Like meat dress, egg/vessel, mermaid, blood, teddy bear dress, wood debris dress, flying dress, what else? metal dress? stone dress? you can only do so much before you run out of ideas or run out of resources to create something you haven't done before, and unfortunately all that happened so fast.

People recognize her talent, but many don't care because they wanna dance to her catchy songs in clubs, watch her perform and do crazy stuff on stage or appear at an event with a weird outfit or make a shocking statement. That's the mentality of the majority of the people who care about her. They're more interested in the lady that wears from Versace and Giuseppe Zanotti than the girl who wears regular stuff. They want the over-the-top performances, the crazy long music videos with story and weird ****. That's what made the most of us love her so much.

Of course, I'm not saying she's worthless without those, but she'll never have even close to the impact she had, with any different attitude than this, which is why she attempted to return to that image with The Cure and then performing Super Bowl which brought back her old looks and now JWT which has a lot more pop hits than Joanne songs. 

Now you're gonna say "she can do whatever she wants". Yeah, sure. But that cannot stop us from discussing the elephant in the room. When people here complain about the  lack of videos from this era or the videos that didn't feel like something Lady Gaga would make, well that's what changing to a more country-ish or rock or metal sound would yield. How weird can one go with Perfect Illusion or Million Reasons? how crazy can you get in a music video of a song that doesn't have much craze into it? and all that will reflect on appeal which reflects on sales which reflects on upcoming performances, tours and albums. She won't be granted as much resources when she doesn't generate much income and when the public gets disappointed by something or just not so hooked into something, they usually remember that when there's something else coming. I mean if I see few movies for a certain director and they don't appeal to me, I will take note whenever I see his/her name on a movie again, same goes for music.

So if this really is the end of Pop Gaga, it will eventually mean the end of Gaga herself, and telling people to "support her instead of b*tching" doesn't help because you don't lie to yourself pretending that a song is good. You provide feedback in hopes of seeing change and if there isn't, you move on. 

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3 hours ago, Bathory said:

I agree, but "She can't do basic pop because she has never done basic pop, and that wouldn't be staying true to who she is as an artist." what is this

valid point lol The Cure is probably the most generic thing she's ever released. I'll rephrase: most of her career has not been basic pop and thus it's more likely than not that the rest of her career will also not be basic pop (with exceptions, like The Cure). 

 

[JohnnyVersace 8,988]

I hope she releases another jazz album with Tony to weed out some of you awful "Monsters."

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5 hours ago, stvn said:

Joanne is a pop album tho.

When I say PopGa, I mean Gaga the Pop Star, not the genre of her music. Joanne is pop, but it's more soft rock/ country/ folk rooted. 

[Enigma 7,182]

I'd rather have her do C3C and be hyped about it / do promotion than this cold, half-assed era she's serving us right now. I mean, Joanne could have been great if she sticked to it, but because of the Superbowl she felt forced to transform it into a commercial GP-oriented thing 

(On one hand I'm happy since I don't like Joanne that much but tour put aside her tragic underinvolvement in this era pisses me off to no end)

[Talent 9,333]

Well, pop music is over, so... 

[FFXSoul91 1,098]

No. She just released The Cure earlier this year. There's no way some random one-off single will be her final pop offering.