StrawberryBlond 14,891 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 well thank GOD we have you around to tell us what should and shouldn't count as a quality indicator. I'm just shocked you haven't been picked up by the New Yorker yet for how clearly weighty and knowledgeable your opinion is :gayb2: the opinions and expertise of respected publications and award committees? **** 'em, WE have Strawberry Blonde.Why is it that it's usually just me who get picked on for submitting an opinion? I say I dislike a lot of other people's opinions, but I never tell them that they're wrong or that they have no right to judge. Maybe I don't always make that clear but I'm going to sound pathetic if I keep prefacing every post with "this is just my opinion, you're perfectly entitled to think differently." God forbid we should be allowed to think out loud without people assuming we're proclaiming to be the bearer of all knowledge. A lot of these so-called music "experts" don't even listen to all that much music and have agendas to push, by the way. I like to provide the opinion of a real person, representing the average music buyer who doesn't have endless money to buy every album. The chances of liking every song on an album is very rare and there's so much hype around mediocre acts that it seems crazy to buy an album without hearing it first in this day and age. The one negative review can be from a bitter, biased place, but it can also be the sole truth teller. I just don't get as carried away with every album like the average critic does. You can disagree with my opinion all you want but there's no need for the snarkiness. If you've got a valid counterpoint, make it - I like a lively, intelligent debate. If you have strong opinions you believe in, you won't need to resort to mocking your opponent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 This was a really funny way to make comedy out of Taylor's "Squad." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Why is it that it's usually just me who get picked on for submitting an opinion? I say I dislike a lot of other people's opinions, but I never tell them that they're wrong or that they have no right to judge. Maybe I don't always make that clear but I'm going to sound pathetic if I keep prefacing every post with "this is just my opinion, you're perfectly entitled to think differently." God forbid we should be allowed to think out loud without people assuming we're proclaiming to be the bearer of all knowledge. A lot of these so-called music "experts" don't even listen to all that much music and have agendas to push, by the way. I like to provide the opinion of a real person, representing the average music buyer who doesn't have endless money to buy every album. The chances of liking every song on an album is very rare and there's so much hype around mediocre acts that it seems crazy to buy an album without hearing it first in this day and age. The one negative review can be from a bitter, biased place, but it can also be the sole truth teller. I just don't get as carried away with every album like the average critic does. You can disagree with my opinion all you want but there's no need for the snarkiness. If you've got a valid counterpoint, make it - I like a lively, intelligent debate. If you have strong opinions you believe in, you won't need to resort to mocking your opponent. Because there's not an intelligent debate to be had. You can't go around tinfoil hatting the music industry as if you're the sole truth bearer and not expect some bit of derision. You can't write off every publication in existence just because for this moment in time it suits your biases. Yes Strawberry, YOUR biases. It's like giving equal air time to those who profess 9/11 was an inside job. Widespread critical attention can't melt steel beams. Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 A lot of these so-called music "experts" don't even listen to all that much music and have agendas to push, by the way.I want cold hard evidence to support this that erases any bit of doubt. Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,891 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Because there's not an intelligent debate to be had. You can't go around tinfoil hatting the music industry as if you're the sole truth bearer and not expect some bit of derision. You can't write off every publication in existence just because for this moment in time it suits your biases. Yes Strawberry, YOUR biases. It's like giving equal air time to those who profess 9/11 was an inside job. Widespread critical attention can't melt steel beams.And you're saying I'm not giving intelligent debate because it suits your biases. It's not tinfoil hatting, it's basic common sense. I'm not the only one to voice these opinions. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's reality. The biggest evidence is people within the industry who say how much BS is involved in it. It's common knowledge. It's the people who believe everything they read and trust the experts that are the ones to be concerned about. The media does a great job at never making anyone question anything and trying to make us subscribe to their beliefs. For your information, I don't write off every publication. I've championed Slant Magazine and Robert Christgau in the past for being top notich reviewers. Slant is on point a good 80% of the time and I always think they provide harsh truths when no other reviewer will (they gave a 3/5 to Adele's 21, the same as me, when every other reviewer was salivating over her). They're usually right at the bottom of the list of reviews on Wikipedia and you go through the 4/5's, the 9/10's and so forth and then you see their lukewarm 3 star review that provides the visual of the phrase "let's not get carried away here..." which I just love as a realist music reviewer. As for Robert, I like him not because I think he's always right (I rarely agree with him and he's too extreme - he either loves something or despises it with nothing in between) but because he has this whole IDGAF attitude about his reviews. He puts what he feels, even if no other critic agrees with him and he's the one oddball. You can tell no one pays this guy for positivity because he's too much the polar opposite of what every other critic says and I commend him for that.Nice re-working of the "band aids can't fix bullet holes" line. Better than the original, by the way, even if I disagree with the sentiment.I want cold hard evidence to support this that erases any bit of doubt.That's the thing, there is no cold hard evidence as it's such a secret business that only those in the know are aware of. I've got one good friend who has connections here and there but he's limited. But it happens. You want me to believe that reviewers with masters degrees in musical theory seriously think albums by various stoner rappers with ridiculous, unintelligable lyrics are any good? Or that middle aged male critics are seriously into immature, girlie albums when even some of the target demographic is dismissive of them? It's a widespread thing across all media. I've seen articles written exposing the truth behind positive video game reception, postive Amazon reception and positive Tripdvisor reception (a company even admitted to this). You must know that a lot of review sites have reviews posted by employees of the company's product to boost it up and the rival companies do the opposite, giving a bonus to the employees who conform. Thing is, whenever I talk about paid for reviews to anyone, they always nod and say they totally agree because anyone with an ounce of media savviness can see it. Everyone knows it happens. You're one of the few who don't and seem to think people like me are crazy conspiracy theorists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 That's the thing, there is no cold hard evidence as it's such a secret business that only those in the know are aware of. I've got one good friend who has connections here and there but he's limited. But it happens. You want me to believe that reviewers with masters degrees in musical theory seriously think albums by various stoner rappers with ridiculous, unintelligable lyrics are any good? Or that middle aged male critics are seriously into immature, girlie albums when even some of the target demographic is dismissive of them? It's a widespread thing across all media. I've seen articles written exposing the truth behind positive video game reception, postive Amazon reception and positive Tripdvisor reception (a company even admitted to this). You must know that a lot of review sites have reviews posted by employees of the company's product to boost it up and the rival companies do the opposite, giving a bonus to the employees who conform. Thing is, whenever I talk about paid for reviews to anyone, they always nod and say they totally agree because anyone with an ounce of media savviness can see it. Everyone knows it happens. You're one of the few who don't and seem to think people like me are crazy conspiracy theorists. Shockingly, yes, critics will have different opinions with various artists. While one might be dismissive of an artist in a particular field, it doesn't mean they'll be dismissive of all artists within that field. That's how opinions work. Taylor just seems to find that right balance, you're just gonna have to accept that critics for the most part like her. Of course people nod their heads, people like to believe these things, but it just doesn't hold up in a lot of cases. If Taylor pays for reviews, why does her latest album have 8 with mixed reception? Does she pay every single publication to include her in their list? Did she pay the Grammy's to give her AOTY? At that point you might as well believe that every artist does it. You have hand waving conjectures you pull out of thin air and that's why I can't take you seriously. Funny how it's only the artists you dislike that you accuse of such things. Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Shockingly, yes, critics will have different opinions with various artists. While one might be dismissive of an artist in a particular field, it doesn't mean they'll be dismissive of all artists within that field. That's how opinions work. Taylor just seems to find that right balance, you're just gonna have to accept that critics for the most part like her. Of course people nod their heads, people like to believe these things, but it just doesn't hold up in a lot of cases. If Taylor pays for reviews, why does her latest album have 8 with mixed reception? Does she pay every single publication to include her in their list? Did she pay the Grammy's to give her AOTY? At that point you might as well believe that every artist does it. You have hand waving conjectures you pull out of thin air and that's why I can't take you seriously. Funny how it's only the artists you dislike that you accuse of such things. If good reviews and Grammys were available for purchase, then Katy would be all over that! She would have a 90 score on her albums on metacritic and several Grammys by now. Beck would have never won over Beyoncé for AOTY! Taylor would have won with Red, instead of Daft Punk. There are around five thousand Grammy voting members. Did Taylor pay all of them that voted for her album? Have they all kept that a secret for years? How do you get to all these thousands of people to pay them and why aren't all the big names doing it? Why haven't one of these thousands of people from the music industry come forward to expose the artists that "pay for votes". Come on people...at least apply logic to some of these accusations! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcina Dimitrescu 1,156 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nein 508 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Queen keeps making people talk and giving haters a reason to continuously stalk her! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PdogtheDaibutsu 717 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Queen keeps making people talk and giving haters a reason to continuously stalk her!well...you tried. Kind of missed the point of this...by a long shot haha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsuki Bakugo 9,788 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 That girl squad will break up soon and Taylor's downfall will begin from there when one of those girls comes out and tells the truth about their artificial, forced, and fake 'friendship' with Taylor. Begin? Hasn't it already with her Feminist-lite ways? If All You Ever Do Is Look Down On People, You Won't Be Able To Recognize Your Own Weaknesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie 5 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 well thank GOD we have you around to tell us what should and shouldn't count as a quality indicator. I'm just shocked you haven't been picked up by the New Yorker yet for how clearly weighty and knowledgeable your opinion is :gayb2: the opinions and expertise of respected publications and award committees? **** 'em, WE have Strawberry Blond. Good lord, why are you taking this so seriously? Taylor is merely a pop star. She's not some messiah. This is just SNL. It's just for fun. Everyone has opinions. :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nein 508 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 well...you tried. Kind of missed the point of this...by a long shot hahaThanks for the heads-up, I feel so enlightened suddenly, thanks a lot saint! (: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceGaga 7,585 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 First Scream Queens and now SNL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kacey Elizabeth 900 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Begin? Hasn't it already with her Feminist-lite ways?Worst can happen, actually. Your Candy Perfume Girl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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