Pure Adrenaline 1,518 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 poor Iggy ha white ass gets so much hate and it's isn't threated equally to black people because she is white..... the struggle, the pain, the years of misunderstanding .... literally she is modern day Mother Teresa It's much more fun to have hizophrenia... u never get lonely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELECTRAHEARTPOP 93 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 What exactly? Like Azealia said, she's basically put a big smudge in what hip-hop has become. Some greatly poignant work has been done over the past ~5 years in hip hop, and especially the past year. All anyone wants to write about these days is Iggy and how 'Hip Hop is now white'. Spoiler: it's not, and never will be. Sure, Nicki is black, and made poppy hip-hop. But she was torn down for it, and no one tried saying it was the new hip-hop or the future or whatever. And even when she was doing that pop stuff, she had the flow to back it up, as well as the knowledge and history and material to show she was greatly talented in her field. Iggy has none of this. He had to deal with this like everyone else. How do you know he didn't experienced discrimination? As many black artists have voiced their agreement with Azealia other black artists have showed support for Iggy Azalea. No one is the voice of 'black people' and no one knows what 'black people' think. They are all individuals with different points of views. You have no right to discredit his opinion about his own race and his culture, specially if you are not black. That's worse than Iggy Azalea appropriating their culture I'm talking about right now. I'm not trying to say that anyone is the voice of black people and I'm sorry if my opinion has come across in that way. I'm just speaking from what I have seen on social media and even in my own life with my multicultural friends and their opinions on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Like Azealia said, she's basically put a big smudge in what hip-hop has become. Some greatly poignant work has been done over the past ~5 years in hip hop, and especially the past year. All anyone wants to write about these days is Iggy and how 'Hip Hop is now white'. Spoiler: it's not, and never will be. Sure, Nicki is black, and made poppy hip-hop. But she was torn down for it, and no one tried saying it was the new hip-hop or the future or whatever. And even when she was doing that pop stuff, she had the flow to back it up, as well as the knowledge and history and material to show she was greatly talented in her field. Iggy has none of this. I'm talking about right now. I'm not trying to say that anyone is the voice of black people and I'm sorry if my opinion has come across in that way. I'm just speaking from what I have seen on social media and even in my own life with my multicultural friends and their opinions on this. So basicly you're saying whites shouldn't do hip hop or what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELECTRAHEARTPOP 93 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 So basicly you're saying whites shouldn't do hip hop or what? Hell no. I'm probably one of the biggest Eminem fans on this site. He's incredible. He had respect for the roots of his craft. Iggy really doesn't. He didn't act like a spokesperson for the black community when Miley started twerking (Iggy tweeted that she declared the twerking trend, which stemmed from the Black American hip-hop community, over, thereby implying she could have a say on something which wasn't part of her culture at all). I could argue until I'm blue in the face on this website and I'm pretty much done. I just wish y'all could look at what is really going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear 7,515 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 but its not the point lmfaoo its not that What is the point then? I mean that in the most honest way possible, if you have the time please explain it to me so I can understand it better because I'm not getting what she is trying to say. I've already talked about I don't think Iggy is acting from a point of white privilege. I totally get Azealia being p*ssed at Iggy ripping off part of the culture she belongs to and watering it down into pop music, but still trying to pass it off as hip hop- effectively 'smearing' hip hop and rap culture's name. I know that is wrong, and it is even more annoying that people buy into it more than the real deal. But I don't see this as a racial issue, more of an identity issue (i.e Nicki minaj at the start of her career did a similar thing and made music that was arguably much more pop than it was hip hop but got nowhere near as much criticism). Ultimately, I'm not a fan of Iggy. I don't think she is talented, and I think the music she makes should be classed as pop. Other people think she is a new frontier of a changing rap culture, and that is fine too. That is the thing with art, everything is subjective and as a result cultures will change- for better or worse. In my opinion, if Azealia wants to keep the identity of the culture she is so intertwined with, she should do it through her music rather than attacking Iggy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superman 32 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 i find it genuinely funny how the supporters of Azealia's bullying are changing their excuses. When she attacked Iggy all she said was that she s white, hip hop and rap are not for whites and so on. When they got called out for racism they first declined the fact that a black person can be racist and then changed it again to the bigger issue thing that we don't get and that Hip hop and rap can be done by whites as long as they don't claim it as their own culture. When you need to constantly adjust your arguments to defend a bully it means that you are loosing the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 will.i.am is not a hip-hop artist. he sold himself to david guetta to make music for dumbass dudebros who wear monster energy merchandise 24/7 and white girls who don't know **** about hip-hop and think that having touched a black person excuses them from racism. they cater to the same audiences, of course he is gonna defend her. how does he even dare to defend her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inuborg 4,136 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 will.i.am is not a hip-hop artist. he sold himself to david guetta to make music for dumbass dudebros who wear monster energy merchandise 24/7 and white girls who don't know **** about hip-hop and think that having touched a black person excuses them from racism. they cater to the same audiences, of course he is gonna defend her. how does he even dare to defend her. I root for you. I love you. You, you, you, you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Like Azealia said, she's basically put a big smudge in what hip-hop has become. Some greatly poignant work has been done over the past ~5 years in hip hop, and especially the past year. All anyone wants to write about these days is Iggy and how 'Hip Hop is now white'. Spoiler: it's not, and never will be. Sure, Nicki is black, and made poppy hip-hop. But she was torn down for it, and no one tried saying it was the new hip-hop or the future or whatever. And even when she was doing that pop stuff, she had the flow to back it up, as well as the knowledge and history and material to show she was greatly talented in her field. Iggy has none of this. I'm talking about right now. I'm not trying to say that anyone is the voice of black people and I'm sorry if my opinion has come across in that way. I'm just speaking from what I have seen on social media and even in my own life with my multicultural friends and their opinions on this. Well we don't know if he faces discrimination or not. So I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that he doesn't face discrimination anymore. I know black people who like Iggy Azalea and people who dislike her so it's not a general opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
superman 32 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 im in complete disbelief that in 2014 people still talk about what kind of music they should do depending on their skin colour and on top of that consider it non-racist! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann 354 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 will.i.am is not a hip-hop artist. he sold himself to david guetta to make music for dumbass dudebros who wear monster energy merchandise 24/7 and white girls who don't know **** about hip-hop and think that having touched a black person excuses them from racism. they cater to the same audiences, of course he is gonna defend her. how does he even dare to defend her. THERE IS JUSTICE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy 495 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 will.i.am is not a hip-hop artist. he sold himself to david guetta to make music for dumbass dudebros who wear monster energy merchandise 24/7 and white girls who don't know **** about hip-hop and think that having touched a black person excuses them from racism. they cater to the same audiences, of course he is gonna defend her. how does he even dare to defend her. He is hip-hop though. He started creating pop and dance after many years of hip-hop. He knows more about hip-hop music than every single person on this website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 will.i.am is not a hip-hop artist. he sold himself to david guetta to make music for dumbass dudebros who wear monster energy merchandise 24/7 and white girls who don't know **** about hip-hop and think that having touched a black person excuses them from racism. they cater to the same audiences, of course he is gonna defend her. how does he even dare to defend her. He was unquestionably part of hip-hop for many years, even if he evolved in a more electro-hop and pop direction. He had a career before The End and even before Fergie joined the Peas. Lot of black rappers have gone for a broad international audience that crosses over with pop. Not just a niche "black music for black people." Why do you think Kanye samples Daft Punk to get a #1 hit and feat. on a Katy Perry song? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 He is hip-hop though. He started creating pop and dance after many years of hip-hop. He knows more about hip-hop music than every single person on this website. But what does abandoning Hip-Hop after so many years for a perverted caricature of EDM say about his credibility? If Charles Manson told you that murder was ok, would you go out and kill somebody and justify your actions by saying "Well he told me it's ok."? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SychosSoChic 9,995 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 im in complete disbelief that in 2014 people still talk about what kind of music they should do depending on their skin colour and on top of that consider it non-racist! I can't "this" this post enough. But what does abandomning Hip-Hop after so many years for a perverted caricature of EDM say about his credibility? If Charles Manson told you that murder was ok, would you go out and kill somebody and justify your actions by saying "Well he told me it's ok."? That's irrelevant. The point is you said he's not hip-hop. But he is. Life ain't Hollywood for any one of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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