Ascetic 0 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Tumblr isn't reliable though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggedMonster 2 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I might get killed for this, but, honestly, while I personaly as a mega-fan see all of what was written in the article happeing, most people really just don't care. I don't believe they even know whats going on. All of my friend/family/people outside this fan base know nothing about any of this. They don't know what DWYW refers to, they don't really get what applause is about, they know nothing about this "blackout" everyone on here knows about... Gaga kinda just "is" now, shes kinda just exisiting. I hate to say it. She just isn't where she used to be in terms of popularity, or everyone knowing/caring about her.. we live in the instagram/google/twitter tech-obsessed world now. Where infrmation is being fed to us by the second, Celebrity and fame isn't what it used to be, back when people would obsess ofver music icons like michael, madonna, ect. fame and celebrity has changed. Then we have the poeple who say "oh btw turned people away, the horns, the MTN video, the horns, dark look, etc." PEOPLE DO NOT CARE. They don't remember that MTN was the fifth single or even a single, or that she chose You and I over scheisse..I think this article is more of an excuse as to why Gaga just isn't on top anymore. People outside of this fanbase simply don't care about any of this. :trootea: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus 298 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 So is Tumblr considered a reputable source now? Anyhow, the reason for Gaga's decline is very simple: the quality of her work has gotten significantly worse. +1 A lot of the hate Gaga gets is nothing but bandwagoning imo. Funny how everyone i knew loved her and her music during TF era, i think they liked her more than i did. Then magically after the Alejandro MV is released people started disliking her because liking her meant you were gay or just weird. Essentially liking Gaga wasn't "cool" anymore. The GP are made of people who don't have much going on in their heads. I swear the only reason a bunch of my friends even like Katy Perry's music is because she has a nice rack. It's sad and extremely superficial that people think this way but nothing you can do. Also the media have done it to the best of them. MJ and Madonna are perfect examples of what they do. In the end they are businesses trying to sell papers and get page views. You really can't expect them to do anything else. They'll be kissing Gaga's ass soon enough mark my words. What Gaga must do is stay strong and come through the storm unscathed. If she can get through this then she will be fine in the future imo. The media will kiss her ass again and she'll get that positive press which will boost her popularity. Also can people stop saying things like she shouldn't have done things like the Alejandro MV, Judas, BTW album etc. Who gives a **** if it turned people away from her. I for one am happy she did all those things because it's what she wanted to do and it's her vision as an artist. If the GP can't handle it then i feel sorry for them because they are missing out. +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeBean 0 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Murrrica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus 298 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 The newness of Gaga has cooled down. She is still relevant, but her "weirdness" can no longer support her. She made much deeper music a while back, but now (even though her work is still good) it seems very forced. She is perceived as trying too hard. Once she began adding all of her art interests into the mix, people saw it as a act of desperation to appear more relevant. While it is good that she is more than a singer, that is what people made her famous for. Most of the public could care less about the rest of her interests, they want great music and that is all. As her discography has progressed, her songwriting style has changed. The Fame Monster was about these various "monsters", and Born This Way had deep meaning, and that sparked interest, but now people aren't into the ARTPOP message. Sure, she is trying to bring the two together, and that is great, but it isn't working for her musical career. Honestly, if it were titled something else, it would have likely been more successful. I love the album, but people think it is a forced concept. She can label her style "ARTPOP", but as an album, the public didn't care for it. The larger group wanted a Gaga album, not a Gaga concept. The music was very commercial and tame for it to follow BTW and her previous works. There was little depth to it. Sure, if you are a die-hard fan you've read interviews where she explains some of it, but as a member of the public, they just hear words on a song. BTW was very experimental, and a great album, but the management of it was poor, as is the case with ARTPOP. This is leading to the cooling opinions of her. She is still incredibly relevant, but if she wants to return to her previous level, she will have to work for it, and drop some of her public interests. Her activism is great, but the art idea is very forced from the public perspective. She is an artist, and I think she truly loves art, but the public likely feels that right now, to buy into Gaga, you have to buy into this art concept. ARTPOP is a fantastic album, but if it were titled after any of the other songs on the album, it may have been more liked. It sold well, performed well, etc. but the sabotage is coming from people not letting strange outfits win them over. Gaga will have to allow her music be her merit, not art or activism. She will have to return to her roots, pop, to reduce the sabotage. It has happened before, and it may be a "sell out" move, but it will get worse if she doesn't turn her management around, and start being a pop star again. She is doing well right now, but we all know she can be more. I love her to death, and love her music, but she is better than what has been happening. She is human, she is not perfect and things happen, but she is not 100% the victim. The truth is, she could have made a better album, and she could have sold more, but she released what she did. Is it bad? No. Did she fail? No. But in the end, we know it could have been more. It could have been better. Either way, Gaga is at a point where she will have to choose to digress into a niche pop artist, or return to her pop roots and work to build herself back to incredible heights. She is an insanely popular star, but compared to her past career, she is at a low point. By no means is she "over" but people are definitely less interested. ARTPOP can be her style, but it needs to be all about the music. I LOVE THIS POST! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 This isn't just an American thing. And honestly Gaga has sabotaged herself more than the public has. Sure, there was a huge anti-Gaga bandwagon at some point, but it started around the time this era started to fall apart- there was some negativity before, but not until she fired Troy did I see a huge increase. I don't think her work was up to par with what many people expected of her, even many LM were let down, despite still enjoying the music. Gaga's ability to create pop hits has weakened or she is trying too hard to shift what is pop(ular) music. Her image and team have all weakened. She needs guidance. She is still banking off TF/TFM/and part of BTW to get her places, but she can't. Gaga is old news by today's media standard and she needs to promote herself just like everyone else if she wants to be on top. Her interviews are sporadic and not usually very fun this era- at least not the interviews she was most noted for in the USA. Everything fell apart without people "sabotaging" her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 So is Tumblr considered a reputable source now? Anyhow, the reason for Gaga's decline is very simple: the quality of her work has gotten significantly worse. Sad but true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokyodisko 0 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Until the G.U.Y. music video releases and she starts touring with a new album out. I believe she knows what she is doing. ARTPOP did not do exceptional but, if anyone really believes it flopped they are an idiot. Agreed, but if anyone thinks that if she continues making albums like this and acting this way that she will still become a legend is also an idiot. She's just another pop star in 2014. She needs to step it up. Maybe you should be more of a little monster and not come here to bring Gaga down You can still be a die hard little monster and be disappointed in her current work. She gave us a standard we learned to expect, we gave her an audience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon 5 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Oh, please! America did not "sabotage" Lady Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitteredSpandex 0 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 That is besides the point? The fact is "4" really underperformed, just as ARTPOP is doing. Yet even if the ArtRave does well, Gaga's brand and the ARTPOP name will forever be tainted by the media with a massive label that says flop. Seems everyone just ignored 4 as a collection of songs Beyonce blessed the world with as a gift. No biggie Lol I don't understand the importance of commercial success when it comes to the quality of an album? 4 is Beyoncé's greatest album, and whether it did well in the charts or not it was still a fantastic album. Same goes for ARTPOP, people seem to forget that ARTPOP actually did quite well in the charts, and even though it didn't do as well as Prism, it was still a massive improvement from Born This Way and I think the public need to see Gaga fall before she rises again as the article says... The only problem with this era is that people were more shocked by Miley Cyrus, and the whole art thing became a bit too pretentious and unlikeable in a sense which is a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael 533 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Even her Little Monsters went rogue and looked out for themselves more than they did for Gaga eventually hindering her rather than helping. Sadly very true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlayedForTheGod 665 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 So where was beyonce's crash and burn? 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlitteredSpandex 0 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 4. around four bloody people have said the same thing so stop I've already explained alright Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sursumd 44 Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Omg, this is just bull****, she decided to release an album full of darkness and eighties style songs and that made her be out of people's interest. Then she came back when Katy Perry did, and as it's Perry's best moment, she wasn't successful. It's not that American people are trying to make Gaga fall, it's that she just doesn't appeal as much as Katy. I dont think Katy Perry really appeals to anyone except for parents who are looking for something "safe and popular" for their kids to listen to. If Katys newest album had a movie rating it would be "G". She does nothing to offend, push the envelope or ruffle feathers in any way. You will not have any profound thoughts while watching Katy Perry perform or listening to her music. She is safe, in the most boring ways possible. She didn't start out like this, but she has been edited into it, and its horrible that she is so successful being such a blatant example of mediocrity. What are we teaching our kids by looking up to people that make art so devoid of thought or feeling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Better actually. This. The quality of her work has gotten even better. But the public wants worse (basic), not better (advanced, ground-breaking). Gaga will not yield to this pressure, so here we stand. Those who appreciate what she is creating are the beneficiaries of Gaga's immense talent and creativity. She is writing for them, and for posterity. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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