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Destiny is for losers. It’s just a stupid excuse to wait for things to happen instead of making them happen
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I believe that Russian intervention is bad, and I'm glad the US/allies are standing up and helping Ukraine. In my opinion, they are doing the right thing. 

 

But I find it a little ironic that the US is now telling another country not go to war even after the US wrongly invaded Iraq and contributed to the death of hundreds of thousands of people. 

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Economic isolation seems interesting, although my country's crisis would be bad - 5,4% of our export goes to Russia :ohno: and 5,1% of our gas comes from Russia. It could be way worse in other countries though, most of East-Europe and Central-Europe has over 40% of their gas from Russia. Sweden, Finland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania 100%.

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In the end it's the ukranian people, commoners like us that will suffer all because Putin wants Ukraine as his puppet. I'm glad the Western nations are standing up to him. Someone needs to b---hslap Putin hard before people die due to his insane intervention.

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ryhanna

Well done on Obama for not threatening war :yes:

I agree. It's very smart not to treat Russia like an enemy. Pissing them off won't help. 

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In the end it's the ukranian people, commoners like us that will suffer all because Putin wants Ukraine as his puppet. I'm glad the Western nations are standing up to him. Someone needs to b---hslap Putin hard before people die due to his insane intervention.

 

What you probably need to realize is the fact that Russian troops are not entering villages and killing civilian people there. They are now only controlling the main infrastructure objects in the Crimea.

 

This is a half-island with the strongest pro-Russian population. After the revolution had taken place in Kiev, the capital ciy of Ukraine, people of Crimea held their own elections and chose their own prime minister and president. They refuse to acknowledge the new Ukrainian government and asked for protection from the Russian side themselves.

 

After that, Putin sent troops there. They are controlling two roads which connect the half island with Continental Ukraine, all the airports and other infrastructure objects. There are no fights in Crimea at all. People of this Ukrainian region have always been pro-Russian which is not surprising: Crime became part of Ukrain only in 1950s, before that it used to be a part of Russia and has ethnically Russian population.

 

What is so complicated about the whole situation is the fact thatr Eastern regions of Ukraine are absolutely happy to be in the economic and political partnership with Russia, and have welcomed the invasion by replacing the Ukrainian flags with Russian ones, which is a mess.

 

The Western regions, on the contrary, are against cooperation with Russia and demand EU-partnership. The coutnry is divided fifty-fifty, and finding a balance seems now impossible unless they all decide to talk.

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Princess Die

Can Putin just die already? :Coffee:

Nod if you wanna make love with the enemy. ❤
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I believe that Russian intervention is bad, and I'm glad the US/allies are standing up and helping Ukraine. In my opinion, they are doing the right thing. 

 

But I find it a little ironic that the US is now telling another country not go to war even after the US wrongly invaded Iraq and contributed to the death of hundreds of thousands of people. 

but that was Bush and his people, our current president is actually doing the right thing :) go Obama!

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What you probably need to realize is the fact that Russian troops are not entering villages and killing civilian people there. They are now only controlling the main infrastructure objects in the Crimea.

 

This is a half-island with the strongest pro-Russian population. After the revolution had taken place in Kiev, the capital ciy of Ukraine, people of Crimea held their own elections and chose their own prime minister and president. They refuse to acknowledge the new Ukrainian government and asked for protection from the Russian side themselves.

 

After that, Putin sent troops there. They are controlling two roads which connect the half island with Continental Ukraine, all the airports and other infrastructure objects. There are no fights in Crimea at all. People of this Ukrainian region have always been pro-Russian which is not surprising: Crime became part of Ukrain only in 1950s, before that it used to be a part of Russia and has ethnically Russian population.

 

What is so complicated about the whole situation is the fact thatr Eastern regions of Ukraine are absolutely happy to be in the economic and political partnership with Russia, and have welcomed the invasion by replacing the Ukrainian flags with Russian ones, which is a mess.

 

The Western regions, on the contrary, are against cooperation with Russia and demand EU-partnership. The coutnry is divided fifty-fifty, and finding a balance seems now impossible unless they all decide to talk.

It doesn't matter that they're pro-Russian or whatever, it's Putin that is sending in the military. And Crimea is legally part of the Ukraine and not Russia's and Putin has no legal right to send in troops. The Western do not demand eu partnership, they demand that the Ukrainians be free to choose and not live in fear that anything Putin doesn't like he can send in his soldiers.

Well then tell it to Putin to talk inside of swooping in guns ablazing.

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Economic isolation seems interesting, although my country's crisis would be bad - 5,4% of our export goes to Russia :ohno: and 5,1% of our gas comes from Russia. It could be way worse in other countries though, most of East-Europe and Central-Europe has over 40% of their gas from Russia. Sweden, Finland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania 100%.

Actually our main issue is nuclear fuel, but our president said we have enough in store for the next 2 years. Also our gas depository is full, but this is not really an issue since the main use of it is heating and winter didn't really happen properly, so...:flop: We actually get almost 90% of our gas from Russia :toofunny: so the good thing for us from the crisis in Ukraine is that it also made our lazy government to finally start to work faster on 3 projects that'll reduce that to 50% in the next 3-5 years.

 

On topic kudos to Obama for doing the best thing and trying to resolve the issue diplomatically.  :party:

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I have a bad feeling about this whole thing.... I hope it doesn't escalate!

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I find it "funny" that Obama, who is usually pro-war now is against. I don't believe in his help, he rather wants to start a war with Russia. Sadly, they all care only about their interests.

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