NUTELLA 29,333 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Head Empty said: But it also wouldn't surprise me if it was made for more shallow reasons - either by Gaga or a higher-up. "Someone shrink my nose or I will SCREAM" 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxr 2,728 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Head Empty said: My only unconfirmed explanation would be that it symbolised her changing herself to appeal to the "boss", so that she could get close enough to kill him. Playing by the rules of a broken system so that you can change it from within. The whole video feels like a big metaphor for her experience with the music industry and this headcanon could explain the visual choice. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxr 2,728 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 3 minutes ago, NUTELLA said: "Someone shrink my nose or I will SCREAM" @gagacabana … looking 41 with the 20s spirit 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imogen2133 655 Posted 9 hours ago Author Share Posted 9 hours ago 2 hours ago, Magneto said: Off the top of my head: - Mary Jane Holland and Aura being fully finished instrumentals - Perfect Illusion and Come To Mama being demos by Kevin Parker and Father John Misty - Dianne Warren writing most of Till It Happens to you Well I knew about these already (plus Donatella is an already finished instrumental as well for a different song) but at least she wrote the songs and Aura was not exactly the same when it was Kink by Infected Mushroom but most of the first half of the song is almost exactly the same yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Empty 27,232 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 2 minutes ago, NUTELLA said: "Someone shrink my nose or I will SCREAM" I think it's unlikely because it's the only part of the video where this particular change was made, but I wouldn't rule it out. She was facing a lot of criticism for her appearance at this point of her career and I also think she was going through some body image issues, since she was extremely thin at that time. Then again, she didn't shy away from some unconventional, campy looks at this period of her career. So looking glamorous all the time wasn't always a priority. Long story short, I'm just spitballing 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 24,565 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, Magneto said: Off the top of my head: - Mary Jane Holland and Aura being fully finished instrumentals - Perfect Illusion and Come To Mama being demos by Kevin Parker and Father John Misty - Dianne Warren writing most of Till It Happens to you Can’t account for anything to do with TIHTY and CTM (because I haven’t heard there demos) but she wrote MJH Aura and PI — PI’s demo Tame played live wasn’t the same lyrics at all besides the chorus which was “it wasn’t love, it wasn’t love. It was just an illusion” Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry Blues 496 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Stupid Love was a cool first single 🩷 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 173,936 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, Magneto said: Mary Jane Holland and Aura being fully finished instrumentals Mary Jane Holland was made for Gaga. That "Can't Beat the Machine" song was made after MJH in spite 'cause those people were told they couldn't have the instrumental. Aura largely existed as Kink by Infected Mushroom but Zedd did a lot of additional work alongside Gaga after she decided to turn Kink into Burqa and later Aura. I don't disagree with your original point, I just think ARTPOP catches too much flack for being "premade" when Donatella was the only instrumental she straight up took and used Whimsical bitch Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrangea 8,150 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Sometimes I think 2008/09 gaga doing her interviews about being genuine and an artist would probably not like her business ventures Looking down at my $t loser misery 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTELLA 29,333 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Just now, Hydrangea said: Sometimes I think 2008/09 gaga doing her interviews about being genuine and an artist would probably not like her business ventures She probably wouldn’t have envisioned it for herself at the time, but I personally think if 2008ga saw this current future in a crystal ball, she wouldn’t do anything to change/alter it. She would welcome it 💰 Beautiful, Dirty, Rich & all that Her whole career (artistic or otherwise) has been a business venture. She was arguably more full of sh!t about that back then (& a lot of that artifice endeared people to her) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriane 22,907 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, bxr said: This is one of the sexiest looks she's ever had The only GGD member who can read / Credits to Celloo Deng for the profile pic! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriane 22,907 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago People are complaining about ARTPOP instrumentals being reused, meanwhile I actually think it fits the themes of the album very well. You can make art by referencing or reusing what already exists to make it your own. The only GGD member who can read / Credits to Celloo Deng for the profile pic! 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladle Ghoulash 55,251 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, Oriane said: People are complaining about ARTPOP instrumentals being reused, meanwhile I actually think it fits the themes of the album very well. You can make art by referencing or reusing what already exists to make it your own. I also think, especially if we’re looking at Aura, you can’t deny the creativity of writing a pop song that is equal parts campy spaghetti western, western fetishization/metaphorical appropriation of Middle Eastern religious garb, reversal of traditional notions surrounding modesty/covering vs. nakedness + vulnerability inside a Brechtian deconstruction of her persona; all the while musically evoking, in a bizarre blender, both 90s-early aughts pop à la Britney + Spice Girls in the chorus alongside almost Iron Maiden-esque take on a Middle Eastern style melody. The creativity of her contribution to hear something like that in a pre-existing instrumental is still incredibly impressive even if she didn’t build the whole thing from the ground up. We have forgotten our public MANNERS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 57,703 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, HOTRODSGAGA said: Her blatant support for israel will tarnish her entire activism legacy. where exactly is she supporting israel? key word being SUPPORTING mother, what must i do? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxr 2,728 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Oriane said: This is one of the sexiest looks she's ever had Rent-free, the whole manor 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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