‘The Odyssey’ debuts with 98% RT score

[ThisGuyTony 34,692]

 

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Oscars will be his again I fear 

[gagzus 22,546]

I’m excited to see it but my only complaints is; only 40 cinemas worldwide can actually show his full vision because of the 4:9 IMAX format he’s chosen to shoot it in. In most cinemas it’s in 16:9 cutting off parts of the screen.

Plus, Anne Hathaway clearly had Botox not long before she shot this (same for other actors) because their facial expressions are affected by it.

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19 minutes ago, gagzus said:

I’m excited to see it but my only complaints is; only 40 cinemas worldwide can actually show his full vision because of the 4:9 IMAX format he’s chosen to shoot it in. In most cinemas it’s in 16:9 cutting off parts of the screen.

Plus, Anne Hathaway clearly had Botox not long before she shot this (same for other actors) because their facial expressions are affected by it.

Greek gods don't have wrinkles, so it's lore accurate. Because how u have godly powers and walk around with wrinkles on your face?

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Of course it did, American critics loves inaccurate whitewashed cultural history average movies 

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17 minutes ago, River said:

Of course it did, American critics loves inaccurate whitewashed history average movies 

This movie is not historical…. it’s mythological/fantasy  

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1 hour ago, River said:

Of course it did, American critics loves inaccurate whitewashed history average movies 

It’s mythological diva. Plus it’s greek so if anything Nolan has made it LESS accurate because no Greek god isn’t depicted as white lol

if anything having slim people portray them when most of them were depicted as fatter, and not having the men sleep with underage 12 year old boys is inaccurate 

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2 hours ago, Morphine Prince said:

This movie is not historical…. it’s mythological/fantasy  

 

1 hour ago, gagzus said:

It’s mythological diva. Plus it’s greek so if anything Nolan has made it LESS accurate because no Greek god isn’t depicted as white lol

if anything having slim people portray them when most of them were depicted as fatter, and not having the men sleep with underage 12 year old boys is inaccurate 

it's history through the myth, the Trojan War is the backdrop of the mythology. study archeology before u speak. 

Don't be "I watch 10 second reel and now I know everything" kind of American

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2 minutes ago, River said:

 

it's history through the myth, the Trojan War is the backdrop of the mythology. study archeology before u speak.

Yes and Greek’s are still white. Even back then they were white. 

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5 minutes ago, River said:

 

it's history through the myth, the Trojan War is the backdrop of the mythology. study archeology before u speak.

Don’t presume that people aren’t aware. The Odyssey has no historical basis, it is pure fantasy.

Also it’s so funny that you say it’s whitewashed given the whole Lupita controversy. Like, people wanna cancel things for no reason, it seems.

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13 minutes ago, robboadam said:

Don’t presume that people aren’t aware. The Odyssey has no historical basis, it is pure fantasy.

Also it’s so funny that you say it’s whitewashed given the whole Lupita controversy. Like, people wanna cancel things for no reason, it seems.

There’s even an entire debate in art and history as to whether the writer was a real person same for the Illiad, because Historians have found there’s no evidence of “Homer” and there’s even debates about whether it was based on random made up sonnets during improvised concerts because there’s no evidence of it being a long form “story” as such. No written recordings of long form writing just pages of poetry and sonnets which were translated and compiled. 

Plus there’s the only evidence of The Trojan War in the Iliad and the Odyssey, it was likely not a real thing but based around a war in the Bronze Age.

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30 minutes ago, gagzus said:

there’s even debates about whether it was based on random made up sonnets during improvised concerts because there’s no evidence of it being a long form “story” as such. No written recordings of long form writing just pages of poetry and sonnets which were translated and compiled. 

False, The illiad and the odyssey are NOT sonnets, they are poems composed in dactylic hexameter.

To call it "randon" and "made up" is also false, the oral performances (not concerts like u said) were systematic, they had repeated formulas, narrative structures, they followed established stories, yes, the performer could develop it, but still had to follow certain rules and order. 

"No written recordings of long form writing just pages of poetry and sonnets which were translated and compiled. "

Please, they might be not evidence of Homer's manuscript, but there is enough material to work with like quotations, papyrus fragments, and even manuscripts.

37 minutes ago, gagzus said:

Plus there’s the only evidence of The Trojan War in the Iliad and the Odyssey, it was likely not a real thing but based around a war in the Bronze Age.

Troy literally been found and there are levels of the city that has been suffered from destruction, even weapons has been found.

 

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2 hours ago, River said:

Of course it did, American critics loves inaccurate whitewashed history average movies 

History?

History?

Y'all cannot be serious.

Its a bloody fictional story book.

History is at best the Illiad, but that's dubious.

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16 minutes ago, River said:

False, The illiad and the odyssey are NOT sonnets, they are poems composed in dactylic hexameter.

To call it "randon" and "made up" is also false, the oral performances (not concerts like u said) were systematic, they had repeated formulas, narrative structures, they followed established stories, yes, the performer could develop it, but still had to follow certain rules and order. 

"No written recordings of long form writing just pages of poetry and sonnets which were translated and compiled. "

Please, they might be not evidence of Homer's manuscript, but there is enough material to work with like quotations, papyrus fragments, and even manuscripts.

Troy literally been found and there are levels of the city that has been suffered from destruction, even weapons has been found.

 

Sonnets are still poems just in shorter format, which the Iliad most likely was made up of as it was most likely changed as time passed on because of the Aoidoi tradition.

And I never said TROY wasn’t real I said The Trojan War was not. It is based on a real war 400 years prior to the Iliad but there’s no evidence of anything mentioned in the Iliad ever existing from Helen (although she is suspected to be based off a noblewoman, but most likely no war was fought over her) to Hector, Achilles and the wooden horse. There’s evidence of a Bronze Age war in Troy but the Iliad and Odyssey are both heavily fictionalised. Homer was also most likely a style or name of way in which the poems were performed, it’s currently believed that Homer was not a real person as there’s no evidence of a singular person having written it down.

Real settings but fictional people and events.

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5 minutes ago, Bronco said:

History?

History?

Y'all cannot be serious.

Its a bloody fictional story book.

History is at best the Illiad, but that's dubious.

The Iliad has been accepted to be entirely fictional by historians and literary people but based on an unnamed war from 1200 BCE in Troy. There’s no evidence that anything within it actually happened only that there was a war in Troy.

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