Is Gaga really in charge of ticket prices?

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27 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

People have shown with several examples that artists, big or small, can choose to opt out of dynamic pricing. Don't tell me that Lady ****ing Gaga doesn't have the power to make such a request to Interscope  We can blame the label and Ticketmaster all we want, but at the end of the day it's her name on that marquee - if she felt a business decision reflected badly on her brand, you'd best believe she'd take swift action.

Then again, I'm not pointing fingers, it's legal so they can do whatever they want and that's the way it is. I do love Gaga and I'm not blaming her, but I'm also not turning a blind eye to the obvious fact that she could do something about it, and she doesn't. She's an incredibly talented, dedicated and generous artist but we shouldn't forget that she's also a millionaire businesswoman living in a villa in Malibu and she's very much about this way of life now. It's OK not to agree with everything your fave says or does, doesn't mean we love them any less, but it's important to be lucid about things.

You think she has the power to change things, I dont believe she does.

Maybe if she had more time to plan the tour, but since everything happened so fast I believe she had to compromise to give us the tour so fast, lets remember, this wasn't a planned tour, it was something she wanted to do after she saw the sucess of MAYHEM.

lets just agree to disagree.

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33 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

I mean if we’re talking about prices that are sometimes 2-3 months’ rent I don’t think anyone is doing too much; you just have one opinion you have said many times over bc that’s the theory you have. That’s great. It has sound reasoning. But these are exorbitant prices being asked. Asking about why they’re so much more expensive than her past shows is more than reasonable when we’re being asked to spend that

The prices ain't alright, I never disputed that, but the hate and frustration should not be directed at gaga IMO.

And Gaga is on her 3rd imperial phase right now, literally everyone wants to see her, the fact she's only doing arenas compounds the price issue even more, people don't like stadiums but prices would probably be a bit more affordable.

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1 hour ago, lastpopicon said:

You think she has the power to change things, I dont believe she does.

Maybe if she had more time to plan the tour, but since everything happened so fast I believe she had to compromise to give us the tour so fast, lets remember, this wasn't a planned tour, it was something she wanted to do after she saw the sucess of MAYHEM.

lets just agree to disagree.

Then I guess she had no time to plan any of her previous tours, since dynamic pricing was used for those too 

More than happy to disagree, tho I'm not sure this is a matter of opinion here.

Edited September 14 by elijahfan

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1 hour ago, Ziggy said:

I mean if we’re talking about prices that are sometimes 2-3 months’ rent I don’t think anyone is doing too much; you just have one opinion you have said many times over bc that’s the theory you have. That’s great. It has sound reasoning. But these are exorbitant prices being asked. Asking about why they’re so much more expensive than her past shows is more than reasonable when we’re being asked to spend that

 

1 hour ago, lastpopicon said:

The prices ain't alright, I never disputed that, but the hate and frustration should not be directed at gaga IMO.

And Gaga is on her 3rd imperial phase right now, literally everyone wants to see her, the fact she's only doing arenas compounds the price issue even more, people don't like stadiums but prices would probably be a bit more affordable.

 

The price is alright without dynamic pricing actually. People who went in at 1-100 queue numbers seen the original price tags of the tickets. The nosebleeds are priced accordingly, like, I got nosebleeds on last date for New York show for $99 before taxes and fees during artist presale yesterday. 

It's only gets crazy because dynamic pricing at play, all that inflated prices that people who have queue numbers in the thousands are dynamic pricing. Those $600++ for nosebleeds, $800++ for sec 200s, etc are dynamic pricing. 

Not to mention Gaga and her team quickly stop selling tickets on her NYC stops at arenas box office when it is known by fans that box office are selling some last minute tickets on normal rate the day before, and on the next night it is not available anymore for the show that day. 
 

 

So the question is back again to Gaga and her management, why did they allow dynamic pricing? 

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1 hour ago, lastpopicon said:

The prices ain't alright, I never disputed that, but the hate and frustration should not be directed at gaga IMO.

And Gaga is on her 3rd imperial phase right now, literally everyone wants to see her, the fact she's only doing arenas compounds the price issue even more, people don't like stadiums but prices would probably be a bit more affordable.

Yeah I actually think that's the issue. like basically exclusively. because taylor and beyonce both had cheaper base tickets and beyonce had dynamic pricing (i dont remember taylor's bc i dont follow her much), but the capacity thing...i think that's the issue. it's arenas at the end of the day

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1 hour ago, elijahfan said:

Then I guess she had no time to plan any of her previous tours, since dynamic pricing was used for those too 

More than happy to disagree, tho I'm not sure this is a matter of opinion here.

It's 2025, leave the past behind. 

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1 hour ago, elijahfan said:

Then I guess she had no time to plan any of her previous tours, since dynamic pricing was used for those too 

More than happy to disagree, tho I'm not sure this is a matter of opinion here.

As far as I remember, Ticketmaster didn’t even have this type of dynamic pricing until 2022 tho

 

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ariana and gaga both made the huge mistake of doing arenas 

it really limits the amount of tickest available...... 

and yall can say whatever excuses you want - about how there arent stadiums available on these dates, well they couldve planned dates when stadiums ARE available. if chris brown, shakira, post malone and all these less popular artists can book stadiums, so can gaga and ari, gagas proven she can sell out stadiums

its almost insulting they are both doing arenas

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12 hours ago, Ashley said:

That’s really interesting, I had no idea that was possible. But how could they differentiate between a professional reseller and average people selling their tickets because they don’t need them anymore? I’m guessing if it’s someone selling a large amount of tickets?

I'm not sure how exactly it was done. Whether they went after IP addresses or by looking for specific  behaviours normally associated with bots.

And I assume some of it would be as simple as tracking the likes of viagogo to see which seats had been listed. 

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6 minutes ago, Monstermilo said:

ariana and gaga both made the huge mistake of doing arenas 

it really limits the amount of tickest available...... 

and yall can say whatever excuses you want - about how there arent stadiums available on these dates, well they couldve planned dates when stadiums ARE available. if chris brown, shakira, post malone and all these less popular artists can book stadiums, so can gaga and ari, gagas proven she can sell out stadiums

its almost insulting they are both doing arenas

At this point I admire your commitment to being wrong on this. 

Stadium shows don't prevent dynamic pricing which is what is being discussed in this thread.

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8 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said:

As far as I remember, Ticketmaster didn’t even have this type of dynamic pricing until 2022 tho

 

I've seen Gaga in the US both for the Joanne World Tour and Enigma, so as early as 2017, and each time I paid at least twice the announced ticket price. Might've been related to fees, but it's always been my understanding that one never pays a concert ticket at face value in the US. And it's definitely gotten worse and worse. I'm not sure I'll ever go see another show there at this rate.

Edited September 14 by elijahfan

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3 hours ago, Monstermilo said:

ariana and gaga both made the huge mistake of doing arenas 

it really limits the amount of tickest available...... 

and yall can say whatever excuses you want - about how there arent stadiums available on these dates, well they couldve planned dates when stadiums ARE available. if chris brown, shakira, post malone and all these less popular artists can book stadiums, so can gaga and ari, gagas proven she can sell out stadiums

its almost insulting they are both doing arenas

Did it occur to you that MAYBE she just wanted to do arenas, and that's all there is to it?  No excuse needed. If you've ever attended an arena and a stadium show, go on and tell me which one was the best experience.

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22 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

I've seen Gaga in the US both for the Joanne World Tour and Enigma, so as early as 2017, and each time I paid at least twice the announced ticket price. Might've been related to fees, but it's always been my understanding that one never pays a concert ticket at face value in the US. And it's definitely gotten worse and worse. I'm not sure I'll ever go see another show there at this rate.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-62919634

Dynamic pricing is a post Covid invention by Ticketmaster.

As for Ticketmaster US - until the latter part of the Biden admin none of the fees had to be included in the advertised face value cost. And unlike other markets, the US added fees faced less regulation and caps etc so it was not at all uncommon for them to double the cost of a ticket. 

This was a significantly lesser issue outside of the US.

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4 minutes ago, Bronco said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-62919634

Dynamic pricing is a post Covid invention by Ticketmaster.

As for Ticketmaster US - until the latter part of the Biden admin none of the fees had to be included in the advertised face value cost. And unlike other markets, the US added fees faced less regulation and caps etc so it was not at all uncommon for them to double the cost of a ticket. 

This was a significantly lesser issue outside of the US.

Thanks, that's good to know.

Doesn't change the fact she used it for Chromatica Ball, tho... Not that the argument I was responding to made any sense anyway, a rushed tour is not an excuse for "forgetting" to opt out of dynamic pricing.

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