meltedplastic 354 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 minute ago, Bronco said: I get it. You're saying that is misogynistic to criticise a woman for willingly working with a rapist to try and make profit. You're just trying incite an argument for the sake of it. Lack of critical thinking skills. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunakween 551 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 thats shocking Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 11,710 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 7 minutes ago, meltedplastic said: You're just trying incite an argument for the sake of it. Lack of critical thinking skills. Babe, I'm not the only member who's pointed out Katy's complicity in the attempts to rehabilitate Dr Luke in this thread in response to you complaining people criticising Katy are misogynists. You've yet to offer a rational argument as to why we shouldn't criticise Katy's support for a rapist. Beyond repeatedly trying to brandish people as misogynists for criticising her support for a rapist. If you want to be taken seriously, offer up a genuine argument as to why Katy choosing to try and rehabilitate a rapist in order to get a successful album era is not worthy of the criticism brandished against her. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 49,830 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 (edited) 12 minutes ago, meltedplastic said: You're just trying incite an argument for the sake of it. Lack of critical thinking skills. but that is literally what you're saying... you're calling people misogynistic for coming after katy perry. she's yet to acknowledge the problem or even make any form of apology, why should she be forgiven? you can't call people misogynistic and then accuse those that disagree of just trying to start an argument when it began with you, on a website that's hugely anti-dr luke and mind you, she didn't just work with him, she wrote/produced/released a (tragic) FEMINIST anthem with him... that's just spitting on her fans, supporters and peers, all out of desperation for a hit Edited August 18 by nATAH mother, what must i do? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meltedplastic 354 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 12 minutes ago, Bronco said: Babe, I'm not the only member who's pointed out Katy's complicity in the attempts to rehabilitate Dr Luke in this thread in response to you complaining people criticising Katy are misogynists. You've yet to offer a rational argument as to why we shouldn't criticise Katy's support for a rapist. Beyond repeatedly trying to brandish people as misogynists for criticising her support for a rapist. If you want to be taken seriously, offer up a genuine argument as to why Katy choosing to try and rehabilitate a rapist in order to get a successful album era is not worthy of the criticism brandished against her. 10 minutes ago, nATAH said: but that is literally what you're saying... you're calling people misogynistic for coming after katy perry. she's yet to acknowledge the problem or even make any form of apology, why should she be forgiven? you can't call people misogynistic and then accuse those that disagree of just trying to start an argument when it began with you, on a website that's hugely anti-dr luke and mind you, she didn't just work with him, she wrote/produced/released a (tragic) FEMINIST anthem with him... that's just spitting on her fans, supporters and peers, all out of desperation for a hit Keep throwing tomatoes. You do not get my point. If you don't see it the way I do, thats fine. I am criticizing culture. I am criticizing the relationship men have with women in pop culture. You can hate her all you want, I dont agree with what shes done and I think its terrible too, but that's not the point I'm talking about. I never said she needs to be forgiven etc. You guys can keep assuming what my beliefs are and stating the same rhetorics that are irrelevant to my point, I don't care. Double standards are double standards, misogyny is misogyny, and of course, Dr Luke should be in prison. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DopeEnigma 1,400 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 6 hours ago, gerrygaga said: The Dr. Luke Recruiter experiences a little electric shock while performing at The Lifetimes Tour. Buzzing Pop also listed the incidents that already happened at Katy Perry's tour: • Nearly fell from giant ball prop • Nearly plummeted from floating butterfly prop • Electric shock • Fan collapsed onstage • Laser pointed at the singer • Fan crashed the stage • Tripped/slipped onstage I read that as fan crushed on stage wrongly and I can’t stop laughing 😂 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nATAH 49,830 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 9 minutes ago, meltedplastic said: Keep throwing tomatoes. You do not get my point. If you don't see it the way I do, thats fine. I am criticizing culture. I am criticizing the relationship men have with women in pop culture. You can hate her all you want, I dont agree with what shes done and I think its terrible too, but that's not the point I'm talking about. I never said she needs to be forgiven etc. You guys can keep assuming what my beliefs are and stating the same rhetorics that are irrelevant to my point, I don't care. Double standards are double standards, misogyny is misogyny, and of course, Dr Luke should be in prison. ...but how is that relevant or related to katy perry? the way you word sounds like "leave katy alone because men are worse" have you actually read any threads here about male artists? they're not exactly filled with praise... mother, what must i do? 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westerosi 2,125 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I didn't really expect that Etsy hex to work. My bad. 🫡 I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guille 1,171 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 5 hours ago, Sneaky Oliver said: jokes aside, I wonder how she feels on the inside, she’s been pushing the strong gal facade and, of course, she has a world tour going on which she can’t just cancel the whole thing… but she’s dealing with commercial failure (not her first time too), the heavy criticism, losing her husband and becoming a single mother As someone who grew up listening to her, I feel bad for her even though I didn’t support her last era at all. I think she might not recover from all of this and I don’t think her career can survive a years-long hiatus Thanks for pouring maturity and commom sense, I wish her mental health is fine... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Hamon 6,517 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 5 hours ago, meltedplastic said: I think people, especially gay men, love to have an opportunity to tear down women and throw tomatoes at them. Whether its her love life, her age, her career etc. Honestly gay men and women are the ones following female popstars so no wonders why both the praise and the critics they get come from these groups essentially. Sport teams are getting wrecked online 24/7 and it's straight dudes doing since they're the one who cares for it usually. I know it's an exaggerated simplification but globally it's true, ykwim. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AiDi 223 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 (edited) 4 hours ago, meltedplastic said: I'm criticizing how people treat women in pop culture compared to men Great, but this thread is not about that. It's about Katy Perry. No one is proving anything you said, you just don't understand that this is about Katy Perry in particular, for her very concrete actions. Of course I will get defensive, I don't like when people do the type of hokey-pokey-f-logic that you do. And the best thing is - I agree with you! Gays are mysogynistic. But Katy is not a proof for that. You can start a new thread about that, and not hijack this one. Edited August 18 by AiDi 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 1,986 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 ok thats also genuinely concerning i hope those are just silly little lights but knowing its a concert there are lots volts going on 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTELLA 10,782 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 hours ago, DopeEnigma said: I read that as fan crushed on stage wrongly and I can’t stop laughing 😂 "I'm so sorry for you loss. How did he pass?" 🥺 "Flattened by Katy Perry's giant butterfly" 🤧🪦 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUTELLA 10,782 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 6 hours ago, meltedplastic said: I think people, especially gay men, love to have an opportunity to tear down women and throw tomatoes at them. 4 hours ago, meltedplastic said: Shocking. I say gay men tend to ridicule women as entertainment and a bunch of gay men get defensive...wow, didn't think that would happen. 3 hours ago, meltedplastic said: Get it? 3 hours ago, meltedplastic said: You're just trying incite an argument for the sake of it. Lack of critical thinking skills. Seems like the only person trying to "incite an argument for the sake of it" is you 3 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,790 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Jokes aside this is genuinely scary?? Imagine if the voltage was higher. In fact, what is a live wire even doing in a prop like that?? Her safety team is so shitty it’s not even funny atp 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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