Madonna speaks about Gaza, asks Pope Leo to visit 'before it's too late'

[Bonkers 29,979]

1 minute ago, PartySick said:

 

I mean...we've got people hitting the streets of the US risking their lives and freedom to stand up for what's right but we'll give Madonna a pass for not calling a genocide "a genocide" 'cause she might make less money in the future and people might criticize her?  

I'm personally happy with her statement, I don't expect celebrities to fix the world (they absolutely have a responsibility to use their platforms to take a step in the right direction, as she has), I'm just saying @MaybeKermit and @gumzy3000 aren't really wrong

Because if she called it a genocide, the zionist propagandists can work with that.

Drawing attention like she did is actually really effective and results are more important than anything else.

And again, something is better than nothing.

A fanbase that is paying outrageous money to see Lady Gaga do *nothing* isn't in a position to criticize Madonna who is doing SOMETHING.

If you put your MONEY behind the people who do NOTHING

And then complain about the people who are doing SOMETHING

You have absolutely no credibility with me on the subject.

I don't think Taylor Swift has done anything, or the other "queens" so it's not just Gaga, but again, Madonna is doing something that will be draw a lot of attention

so is it so goddamn f*cking hard to just say, "good job, Madonna" instead of telling her how she should have done it better?
 

[Gagaism 12,187]

I mean, I see why she’s appealing to the pope as he would supposedly be the least “one sided” personality out off all the authorities that remain the power in those situations.
Thing is, these people won’t even respect him as the religious authority as we know, they’ll only work for their own convenience, and that means killing anyone, no matter what they’ll judge as the right thing to do.

And picking up a side is exactly the wrong thing to do because both will kill for their power - when at the end of the day, NOBODY should be ever killed or threatened, period.

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19 minutes ago, PartySick said:

 

I mean...we've got people hitting the streets of the US risking their lives and freedom to stand up for what's right but we'll give Madonna a pass for not calling a genocide "a genocide" 'cause she might make less money in the future and people might criticize her?  

I'm personally happy with her statement, I don't expect celebrities to fix the world (they absolutely have a responsibility to use their platforms to take a step in the right direction, as she has), I'm just saying @MaybeKermit and @gumzy3000 aren't really wrong

i'm not saying i'm giving her a free pass, but i am practicing critical thinking and empathy by putting myself in her shoes and wondering whether that's really something that i'd be comfortable doing in the same position. and anyone who just openly states they 100% would be is being hypocritical imo because when you get to a level where your entire life is built around materiality, it becomes really hard to dissociate your identity from your wealth (especially considering how lonely life at the top becomes when you never know who you can trust). so yes, I personally understand the challenging dynamics, especially when your livelihood could be at stake. Everyone saw what happened to Melissa Barrera. There's a reason Madonna is a singer and not an Activist in the streets, not everyone has the same level of bravery and rebellion in them and expecting everyone to is just silly, I'm sorry. 

[PartySick 163,269]

21 minutes ago, Bonkers said:

Because if she called it a genocide, the zionist propagandists can work with that.

Ehhhhhh it's kinda giving "this is why Trump won" vibes. We already wrote off what those d*cks say, why would it suddenly matter when they're mad at Madonna  

7 minutes ago, salty like sodium said:

i'm not saying i'm giving her a free pass, but i am practicing critical thinking and empathy by putting myself in her shoes and wondering whether that's really something that i'd be comfortable doing in the same position. and anyone who just openly states they 100% would be is being hypocritical imo because when you get to a level where your entire life is built around materiality, it becomes really hard to dissociate your identity from your wealth (especially considering how lonely life at the top becomes when you never know who you can trust). so yes, I personally understand the challenging dynamics, especially when your livelihood could be at stake. Everyone saw what happened to Melissa Barrera. There's a reason Madonna is a singer and not an Activist in the streets, not everyone has the same level of bravery and rebellion in them and expecting everyone to is just silly, I'm sorry. 

If I had the kind of money she and other pop stars have I'd constantly give the illuminati reasons to take me out, ngl  

I don't really feel strongly enough about this to debate either of you, I think her statement is fine, I just wanted to insert my two cents

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8 minutes ago, PartySick said:

Ehhhhhh it's kinda giving "this is why Trump won" vibes. We already wrote off what those d*cks say, why would it suddenly matter when they're mad at Madonna  

If I had the kind of money she and other pop stars have I'd constantly give the illuminati reasons to take me out, ngl  

I don't really feel strongly enough about this to debate either of you, I think her statement is fine, I just wanted to insert my two cents

the reality of money is that we always think we'd act one way until we get it and suddenly it completely changes who we are. it's impossible to keep money without becoming a different person generally speaking. hoarding wealth, by definition, implies you need some degree of selfishness and self-preservation. otherwise you just give it all away and then you're back to square 1 being poor and no one wants to give you money when you're poor 

[PartySick 163,269]

4 minutes ago, salty like sodium said:

the reality of money is that we always think we'd act one way until we get it and suddenly it completely changes who we are. it's impossible to keep money without becoming a different person generally speaking. hoarding wealth, by definition, implies you need some degree of selfishness and self-preservation. otherwise you just give it all away and then you're back to square 1 being poor and no one wants to give you money when you're poor 

If I won the lottery or something I'd put enough away to live off the interest and the rest would be my "changing lives" money  

I'd buy everyone here a house  

Except @River 'cause he already has 7 of them and @Economy 'cause he already bought one

[Economy 50,793]

26 minutes ago, PartySick said:

If I won the lottery or something I'd put enough away to live off the interest and the rest would be my "changing lives" money  

I'd buy everyone here a house  

Except @River 'cause he already has 7 of them and @Economy 'cause he already bought one

But if u buy someone a house theyd be mortgage free... im not mortgage free... so ill take my free house too thanks 

[Davidsdaze 514]

Not to be that person, but genuinely inquiring, what happens if a Pope is murdered due to political conflicts? 

[elsamars 4,102]

It’s not her first time talking about this.
She’s been drawing attention to this issue since early 2000s, incorporated it into her shows.

Edited August 13 by elsamars

[Lord Mayhem 1,848]

No shade...but wtf does she think the pope is gonna do? 

He's not responsible for what happens to those people...thats all Netanyahu 

[River 119,658]

5 hours ago, PartySick said:

Except @River 'cause he already has 7 of them

I always can have more u know, especially when it's free 

[ALGAYDO 33,641]

Good for her, love that she’s speaking out. Might go give Girls Just Wanna Have Fun a stream xoxo 

edit: oops wrong artist lol 

Edited August 13 by ALGAYDO

[TheBannedShadow 3,299]

8 hours ago, Bonkers said:

Using the pope to draw attention to the genocide is a very effective way to put pressure on Netanyahu and to draw attention to the fact that he's sick war criminal.  Most of the world sees what happening, and more of the brainwashed are waking upp

Using more explosive words just gives zionists the ammunition they need to turn this back on Madonna.

Could she do more, yes.

But why are criticizing Madonna for doing something while paying a forkload of money to go the Mayhem Ball of someone who is doing nothing? 

Its easy to blame it all on Nethanayu, while its Israel itself that has been rotten to the core since its inception.

[TheBannedShadow 3,299]

3 hours ago, Lord Mayhem said:

thats all Netanyahu 

No its not. Israel has been an terrorist state before he became a player.

[Bronco 14,015]

10 hours ago, River said:

I mean, "please go to Gaza and bring your light to the children before it's too late", she has almost 2 years to say something but she said when it's already "too late" 

Madonna spoke up about the situation in Gaza the moment it happened in October 2023. She got some things wrong as lets face it, the propaganda went into overdrive and was very successful in October 2023, but she opposed this conflict since day 1. She's spoken out against the killing of Wadea Al-Fayoume in Chicago as well. All while on tour, all made the news.
 
She turned up to Eurovision in Tel Aviv and deliberately had part of her performance highlight the need for peace and a 2 state solution. And this was in 2019, when the public conversation in the west around Israel & Palestine was significantly different.
She did similar performances throughout her entire 2006 Confessions tour. 
The Palestinian flag is featured in the MDNA tour Nobody Knows Me Interlude. 
She's criticised all religious conflict and persecution on every tour since 9/11. 

She's never been quiet.