MAYHEM Ball has grossed $36M from first 10 shows

[Leography 154]

16 minutes ago, Gohan said:

Why are y'all blaming her for the prices when it's literally Ticket Master the one that overprices **** just for the sake of it? 

Artists can, and have, opted out of it. She's not the one deciding, but she's not innocent either. She's allowing and profiting from it. Most major acts are sadly. 

Edited August 7 by Leography

[Guillaume Hamon 6,498]

On 8/7/2025 at 2:20 AM, elsamars said:

Let’s see if the people virtue signaling in the Beyoncé thread will be here.

Don't know if it was the same ones but the similar critic definitely came for Gaga too. 

Dynamic pricing is vile af and it was super disappointing Gaga allowed it when other artists ( big or indies ) did chose to refuse it.

[StrawberryBlond 14,862]

Why hasn't this been added to her official Wiki page yet? Such a weird delay for such important information. Anyway, absolutely amazing, even better than I could've hoped and for arenas too. Yes, the tickets are very expensive but if there's one artist who's worth it, it's her. She's got it all, no other female artist is on her level, I'd argue no other artist, period, is on her level right now. And who know when the next tour's going to be anyway? Let's hope this becomes her highest ever grossing tour, she deserves it. With any luck, there'll still be more places announced especially including all the obvious regions that she missed. 

On 8/7/2025 at 1:20 AM, elsamars said:

Let’s see if the people virtue signaling in the Beyoncé thread will be here.

We actually think Gaga's worth it. That's the difference. And why are her own fans against praising her over others? Thinking she's the best is not unusual when we're fans of her.

On 8/7/2025 at 4:58 AM, monstertoronto said:

Here’s what I dont understand. The entire tour is already sold out way in advance. You cannot cancel or get a refund for your tickets. So don’t they already know exactly how much money the entire tour has made already, since the entire tour was sold out. 

I'm also confused as to why the gross isn't literally announced the next day. Yes, people can buy tickets right up to the day of but not so many that sales would have to be double checked and verified. Revenue announcements used to come in batches by continent so a huge leg would take a long time to cough up sales but a quick trip to Japan gets announced the next week. But I don't know what's happening these days, it's extremely hard to get hold of a lot of tour stats and a lot of stats aren't officially documented. I used to think that was done in the case of low sales to avoid embarrassment but that definitely isn't always the case. I just look on Wikipedia and maybe that makes me old-fashioned but tour stats used to be fully announced back in the day.

[elsamars 630]

24 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

 

We actually think Gaga's worth it. That's the difference.

 

So you think Gaga worths dynamic pricing. I think it’s double standards.

 

[StrawberryBlond 14,862]

15 hours ago, elsamars said:

So you think Gaga worths dynamic pricing. I think it’s double standards.

I don't agree with dynamic pricing but if anyone's going to do it, I'd rather it was someone who gives a great show. This pricing model isn't going away anytime soon and there's not enough people to take a stand against it by refusing to buy tickets en masse, so what else can we do? And I rarely go to concerts, the last concert I went to was in 2017. I've made up for that by going to 2 this year (one indie gig, one stadium show) and I'll be seeing Gaga in an arena. That's roughly £670 spend altogether. I don't break the bank with ticket prices wherever possible and I refuse to have anyone make me feel guilty for an occasional indulgence of what I enjoy. My friend is paying to see Gaga for only the second time in her entire career. I believe that it's only a negative thing spending big money on tickets if the artist clearly isn't worth it. But acting as if it's always a bad thing regardless isn't right. We really need to stop shaming people for what they spend their hard-earned money on.

[elsamars 630]

1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I don't agree with dynamic pricing but if anyone's going to do it, I'd rather it was someone who gives a great show. This pricing model isn't going away anytime soon and there's not enough people to take a stand against it by refusing to buy tickets en masse, so what else can we do? And I rarely go to concerts, the last concert I went to was in 2017. I've made up for that by going to 2 this year (one indie gig, one stadium show) and I'll be seeing Gaga in an arena. That's roughly £670 spend altogether. I don't break the bank with ticket prices wherever possible and I refuse to have anyone make me feel guilty for an occasional indulgence of what I enjoy. My friend is paying to see Gaga for only the second time in her entire career. I believe that it's only a negative thing spending big money on tickets if the artist clearly isn't worth it. But acting as if it's always a bad thing regardless isn't right. We really need to stop shaming people for what they spend their hard-earned money on.

I don’t know why you’re writing these long paragraphs for me. You’re getting off topic and it does not make sense for what I initially said. Please don’t quote me again. Thank you.

[Borislshere 53,080]

The way I’d pay that much just to experience it again 

[StrawberryBlond 14,862]

4 hours ago, elsamars said:

I don’t know why you’re writing these long paragraphs for me. You’re getting off topic and it does not make sense for what I initially said. Please don’t quote me again. Thank you.

It references exactly what you brought up - why we don't hold it against Gaga for charging high prices and our justifications for it. Just because you didn't like my explanation doesn't mean it's off topic. Was my response really worth a "don't quote me anymore" reaction? It's a forum, the whole point is to discuss with people, but whatever. 

[Monsta217 581]

Just my two-cents. We can argue all day about what is fair in life and what isnt, but yall do need to keep in mind that while Gaga, Bey, and all the elites are indeed millionaires, a big part of what a tour makes, goes right back into keeping those artists going and doing the stuff we love.

First of all, these shows cost A LOT to make, and to set up every day. Not gonna go into a list of what it takes, but its a lot.

Secondly, all this money is not just for 1 person, its for hundreds of them who does this as a job, stage crew, dancers, musicians, security, and of course, Gaga's label.

All this money is going to be split up between paying for everything that it costs to make the show and everyone involved, the label, Gaga as a person, and for Gaga's future. This is going to finance the next album, the next videos, the next performances.

I get it, capitalism sucks, and it sucks that prices have risen so much, but its not just tickets that went up, all costs related to setting the show up also went up in recent years, just like everything in the world went up a lot after the pandemic.

Now, im not defending the situation, it sucks, and it has affected my life  just like im sure it has with many of you, just wanted to bring some perspective because a few of you are acting like Gaga or Bey themselves are some evil money hoarders that are just pretty much printing money, there is more to it than that.... they are pretty much enterprises that need to make money to keep functioning. No money means no budget, no shows, no dancers, no videos, no spectacles, no Gaga, its as simple as that.

[StrawberryBlond 14,862]

15 hours ago, Monsta217 said:

Just my two-cents. We can argue all day about what is fair in life and what isnt, but yall do need to keep in mind that while Gaga, Bey, and all the elites are indeed millionaires, a big part of what a tour makes, goes right back into keeping those artists going and doing the stuff we love.

First of all, these shows cost A LOT to make, and to set up every day. Not gonna go into a list of what it takes, but its a lot.

Secondly, all this money is not just for 1 person, its for hundreds of them who does this as a job, stage crew, dancers, musicians, security, and of course, Gaga's label.

All this money is going to be split up between paying for everything that it costs to make the show and everyone involved, the label, Gaga as a person, and for Gaga's future. This is going to finance the next album, the next videos, the next performances.

I get it, capitalism sucks, and it sucks that prices have risen so much, but its not just tickets that went up, all costs related to setting the show up also went up in recent years, just like everything in the world went up a lot after the pandemic.

Now, im not defending the situation, it sucks, and it has affected my life  just like im sure it has with many of you, just wanted to bring some perspective because a few of you are acting like Gaga or Bey themselves are some evil money hoarders that are just pretty much printing money, there is more to it than that.... they are pretty much enterprises that need to make money to keep functioning. No money means no budget, no shows, no dancers, no videos, no spectacles, no Gaga, its as simple as that.

I'm glad someone finally says it. Tours aren't just money for the artist, it's for the entire crew, including behind the scenes people and the label as a whole. Cost of renting the venues in the first place is massive and the bigger the venue, the bigger the cost. Hundreds of thousands to rent the biggest stadiums. Not only does enough money have to be made to cover those costs, but an extra profit on top of that to pay everyone involved. But it's no different to everything else is in life increasing with inflation. It's just the reality of the cost of living. Why do we expect concert tickets to be any different? It always amazes me when I see people shocked at the price of something because this product is roughly the same price everywhere and has been for a long time. It's like they just got out of jail or something and don't know why everything's so expensive. Sure, new artists, indie artists and artists with very low production values will charge much lower prices. But only because circumstances allow for it. When they start getting more known, successful and/or more focused on tour visuals, those prices will understandably increase. No matter which time period we're talking about, that has always been the case. It costs more to see a legend than it does to see a newcomer. That should go without saying. Touring keeps the lights on for artists in this digital economy where people don't buy music like they used to. They have to make money somewhere.

Millions of us would literally have to stop buying tickets for things to change and that isn't happening. But even if it did, touring companies would likely misinterpret this as the public not being interested in a tour from the artist or that we just need less dates. Prices might even increase further to cover the lack of sales. Sad but true.

[Guillaume Hamon 6,498]

On 8/10/2025 at 5:02 AM, Monsta217 said:

First of all, these shows cost A LOT to make, and to set up every day. Not gonna go into a list of what it takes, but its a lot.

Secondly, all this money is not just for 1 person, its for hundreds of them who does this as a job, stage crew, dancers, musicians, security, and of course, Gaga's label.

Each time we get estimations of what these superstars tours costs and hear about their box offices, the grossing largely exceed the investment tho. As long as it's successful ofc.

And yes it doesn't all get straight to the singer's account ofc but they do get a lot. Gaga or else, the estimated net worth of these big singers gains a few tens of millions after some months of successfully touring. Gaga kept making these big tours along the years and she keeps on buying crazy fancy properties so she's not barely paying the tour expenses.

On 8/10/2025 at 5:02 AM, Monsta217 said:

I get it, capitalism sucks, and it sucks that prices have risen so much, but its not just tickets that went up, all costs related to setting the show up also went up in recent years, just like everything in the world went up a lot after the pandemic.

The average inflation of everything is far to be big like the one we see for concert tickets.

On 8/10/2025 at 5:02 AM, Monsta217 said:

just wanted to bring some perspective because a few of you are acting like Gaga or Bey themselves are some evil money hoarders that are just pretty much printing money

What these stars can do is to refuse dynamic pricing which was done by both A-listers or indier acts ( Ed Sheeran, The cure, Taylor Swift, Neil young, small upcoming bands...). It does play a huge role in the ticket price rise and Gaga and Beyoncé didn't choose it.

On 8/10/2025 at 5:02 AM, Monsta217 said:

they are pretty much enterprises that need to make money to keep functioning. No money means no budget, no shows, no dancers, no videos, no spectacles, no Gaga, its as simple as that.

They largely make the money to function tho.

It is rather about greed at this point of crazy rise of prices. They're allowed to just enjoy the demand to get as much as possible but ofc many fans will hate it.

Edited Monday at 05:47 AM by Guillaume Hamon

[Monsta217 581]

32 minutes ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

Each time we get estimations of what these superstars tours costs and hear about their box offices, the grossing largely exceed the investment tho. As long as it's successful ofc.

And yes it doesn't all get straight to the singer's account ofc but they do get a lot. Gaga or else, the estimated net worth of these big singers gains a few tens of millions after some months of successfully touring. Gaga kept making these big tours along the years and she keeps on buying crazy fancy properties so she's not barely paying the tour expenses.

The average inflation of everything is far to be big like the one we see for concert tickets.

What these stars can do is to refuse dynamic pricing which was done by both A-listers or indier acts ( Ed Sheeran, The cure, Taylor Swift, Neil young, small upcoming bands...). It does play a huge role in the ticket price rise and Gaga and Beyoncé didn't choose it.

They largely make the money to function tho.

It is rather about greed at this point of crazy rise of prices. They're allowed to just enjoy the demand to get as much as possible but ofc many fans will hate it.

Looked around and while there is no solid information because it varies a lot from artist to artist, and from concert to concert, found this breakdown that estimates that artists only get around 8% of the gross as personal profit.

https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2024/12/what-artists-earn-from-ticket-sales-a-revealing-revenue-breakdown.html

This one says that after all venue and ticket fees, the act gets from 50 to 70%, which then is divided 85% to the artist and 15% to the promoter. But that 85% for the artist is where all touring expenses go, from dancers, musicians to transport trucks, lights, hotels, plane tickets, light bracelets for the audience, etc etc etc so not far off from the other article. 

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jan/30/where-does-concert-ticket-money-go

Keeping in mind that Gaga's tour involves a much bigger crew with lots of dancers, props, lighting, than for example, an Adele or an Ed Sheeran concert, then I imagine her own profit is on the low end of these estimates. 

Now, sure she still gets millions from a tour, and yes the dynamic pricing thing is not cool at all, and yes we can argue all day about capitalism and greed and how much money is too much for a single person, but I stand by my original comment in saying that some people here are not being very fair to Gaga when talking about this.

 

[Guillaume Hamon 6,498]

On 8/11/2025 at 8:30 AM, Monsta217 said:

Looked around and while there is no solid information because it varies a lot from artist to artist, and from concert to concert, found this breakdown that estimates that artists only get around 8% of the gross as personal profit.

https://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2024/12/what-artists-earn-from-ticket-sales-a-revealing-revenue-breakdown.html

This one says that after all venue and ticket fees, the act gets from 50 to 70%, which then is divided 85% to the artist and 15% to the promoter. But that 85% for the artist is where all touring expenses go, from dancers, musicians to transport trucks, lights, hotels, plane tickets, light bracelets for the audience, etc etc etc so not far off from the other article. 

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jan/30/where-does-concert-ticket-money-go

Keeping in mind that Gaga's tour involves a much bigger crew with lots of dancers, props, lighting, than for example, an Adele or an Ed Sheeran concert, then I imagine her own profit is on the low end of these estimates. 

Now, sure she still gets millions from a tour, and yes the dynamic pricing thing is not cool at all, and yes we can argue all day about capitalism and greed and how much money is too much for a single person, but I stand by my original comment in saying that some people here are not being very fair to Gaga when talking about this.

 

We always hear than money is in touring for artists since streaming platforms kinda screw them while physical copies sells way less than they used to.

Gaga or the acts touring as successfully as her ( big productions or pretty simple ones)  keep on buying "many millions properties" then investing many other millions in businesses then in collections of precious items while getting their parents a house or a restaurant etc etc... And that's even for the ones who refused dynamic pricing for their tours actually. 

Idk what to say since to me your whole comment strongly proves they're actually fair by saying she always so largely makes her margin out of touring,even before dynamic pricing, therefore could at least refuse it so high prices don't get gigantic lol...

Mainly at this point of her career when she clearly accumulated a lot and is about to marry a dude with a giant net worth that is estimated to be "only" half of hers...  That's exactly when she could be less greedy so, imho, the fans who placed her there and now can't pay for her exploding ticket price are 100% entitled to voicing their disappointment and call it greed.

Edited Tuesday at 11:48 AM by Guillaume Hamon

[Sepsami 18,887]

On 8/7/2025 at 3:16 AM, NUTELLA said:

**** YOU YOU DUMB ****

Iconic behavior, it's the new saying on this cursed forum I can just feel it 

[Sepsami 18,887]

Idk what's going with the prices on the US Dates as I have seen them as high as 60K for a ticket lol. But I do know that that was not happening for European dates, idk what the difference is. Maybe there are protections against this kind of scamming here that the US doesn't have. Either way I'm very happy to be seeing her in concert with my 200 euro golden ticket.