Official Charts Thread

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11 minutes ago, Sepsami said:

Wasn't Debra just unlucky cause of the SB? It would have definitely hit Top 10 otherwise, based on the actual numbers and comparing it to the top 10 averages throughout the year.  

Not really, even without superbowl it would peak 11.

Kendrick already had 2 songs on the top 10 before the superbowl, the superbowl boost gave him 2 more on the top 10.

Well, I guess if we count the sza song it would peak top 10 without the superbowl.

Edited Monday at 06:28 AM by lastpopicon

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meanwhile DWAS survives the superbowl effect on top 5 unbothered 

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The last pages are hard to read..

not again the same topic over again for over last 10years if gaga single is not a  global smash as every song should be 

she just got 2 global hits and biggest standalone concert ever

and some of you still complaining 

TDD us doing fine, and its not going anywhere thats also fine, its impossible with every carrer to keep the high momentum everytime with every single song.

 

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@Nagini @lastpopicon

Not everything Gaga releases will stick and thats just how it is, especially in USA.

But also keep in mind high peaks (Stupid Love) are not all they used to be.

Longevity is the key going forward and she has attained that with Abracadabra, ARUTW, BM, HMH and even Judas.

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If Gaga’s team played the chart game fully we’d have more to purchase - I’m talking remixes, cd singles, picture discs, etc. 

Essentially Abra was a hot 100 top 10 most other weeks of the year it just got incredibly unlucky with SB.

Let’s not forget both Abra and TDD are billboard global top 10s. So is it really the end of the world if it isn’t a top 10 in the US? 

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21 minutes ago, whoresup said:

So is it really the end of the world if it isn’t a top 10 in the US? 

Yes 

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Also comparing charts oerformances with songs DWYW makes no sense

thats was totally different times and diffrenrnt music markets

stupid love wasnt a big hit, 

it goes no 5  only because of physicals

disease would do similar and abra  ofk much much  higher in hot100 and would go even no 1 in UK with physicals

Some of you would feel better then and suddenly finally  of you would call Abra a global smash then? And disease a hit?

and TDD as well? (with physicalls would go top10)

So to sum up in some of you word  physicalls makes song a hit and popular 

and ofk billboard chart is really good metric of song popularity nowadays

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Nagini said:

100% the US arm of this fanbase sucks. I want to repeat that barbs got Super Freaky Girl (and other random Nicki Minaj tracks) to #1-#2 on Billboard off iTunes purchases alone. Beyonce fans got her #1s with Break My Soul and Texas Hold Em. Gaga is arguably bigger than both of them and we can't even get the SONG of her career Debra a Top 10 on BB, let alone Disease or Dead Dance. 

Some of it is Gaga's doing w/ her creating some distance throughout the years (previously I think she had an unhealthy relationship with fans, so overall a good thing). But moving forward, her single choices should be pretty safe... VIYs, DWAS, GOEs, How Bads, etc. stuff that would play on the radio and satisfy the masses. Nothing about diseases, magic spells, or death-- which, at the end of the day, is FAN FARE. The GP (even if it they take a while to latch onto a song), shows out more for her than fans and it's sad. 

FixedT

Edited Monday at 08:14 AM by RenegAde

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23 minutes ago, scheisseJK said:

So to sum up in some of you word  physicalls makes song a hit and popular 

and ofk billboard chart is really good metric of song popularity nowadays

It's been known though the US fans werent buying the physicals/single which I think is why the label stopped after Chromatica.

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9 minutes ago, whoresup said:

If Gaga’s team played the chart game fully we’d have more to purchase - I’m talking remixes, cd singles, picture discs, etc. 

Would we even buy it though? DWAS had very little physical sales and they need to be profitable to the label.

And didn't SL underperform with the phyical sales too? I remember hearing some very low number.

Even our opening week isn't that impressive for an Artist of Gaga's stature, Gaga is doing 219K while beyonce opens to 407k.

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Surprised people keep bringing Abra not being top 10.

During it's second week, it would have been top 10 if not for the Superbowl and in almost any other week of the year, it would have been top 3-10 based on points. It just happened to be peak at the worst possible time for a number of factors. 

 

 

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Just now, SevenWonder said:

Surprised people keep bringing Abra not being top 10.

During it's second week, it would have been top 10 if not for the Superbowl and in almost any other week of the year, it would have been top 3-10 based on points. It just happened to be peak at the worst possible time for a number of factors. 

 

that's been talked to death and we know it's a great result with an unfortunate imming, I could even say it would be top 5 in most of the months of 2025.

But the #13 peak kinda sucks because it was a golden opportunity of grabbing another Top 10 this decade, and in a few years when people look back they won't talk about superbowl or points, they will only see the peak.

Even the longevity was a bit bitter sweet because we almost got 21 to weeks, but the US didn't pull through in the end, Abra got the bare minimun on the US, when it deserved much more, more alike the sucess it saw wordwide.

And unfortunaly, the US is both the biggest music market in the world and her home country, ofc people will pay attention to it, though, I hope the global charts keeps gaining relevancy. 

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34 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

But the #13 peak kinda sucks because it was a golden opportunity of grabbing another Top 10 this decade, and in a few years when people look back they won't talk about superbowl or points, they will only see the peak.

 

Are we 15 years old ? Is this really our priority in 2025 at our grown age ?

Gaga will be on her way to 45 by then. We've been beyond blessed to stan an artist with her kind of longevity.

(Mind you, Abra is still to this day the most streamed female song of 2025 and in the worst case scenario it will still be top3 !!!!)

 

 

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47 minutes ago, lastpopicon said:

 

But the #13 peak kinda sucks because it was a golden opportunity of grabbing another Top 10 this decade, and in a few years when people look back they won't talk about superbowl or points, they will only see the peak.

no offence but is this even true? think about the hits that are 10/20+ years old, are people discussing their chart stats like this? 

Stupid Girls, 7/11, Into You, Burn were all #13 peaks but nobody ever remembers that, they just love these classics cus the impact was even bigger

infact, i think people will react the same way they discover Bad Romance was #2, never #1 cus Abra had a moment bigger than most songs

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1 minute ago, nATAH said:

no offence but is this even true? think about the hits that are 10/20+ years old, are people discussing their chart stats like this? 

Stupid Girls, 7/11, Into You, Burn were all #13 peaks but nobody ever remembers that, they just love these classics cus the impact was even bigger

infact, i think people will react the same way they discover Bad Romance was #2, never #1 cus Abra had a moment bigger than most songs

Well, we are on the charts thread.