River 92,361 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, Future Lovers said: The vinyls still have exclusivity as theyâre all completely different artworks and are not going to be available forever which is where their actual longstanding worth is derived from. Its not about the songs and fans knew that going in. Just like with the songs on some of the Midnights physicals we knew theyâd be available online release day and we knew theyâd eventually come via leaks and would come to streaming later like they always did. No one bought these vinyls under the delusion that thatâd be the only place to get those songs, they bought them based on the artworks. Maybe people outside the fanbase werenât aware of that, and thatâs all good, but weâve been around this block before and knew exactly what it was we were signing up for.  nobody knew about the second album, it was just a speculation Usually the bonus tracks come to streaming a few months after release, not 2 hours after in a second album... which invalidate their "bonus track" statue Je ne parle pas français but I can padam if you like 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloHangoverz 5,161 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 7 minutes ago, River said: not 2 hours after she's really taking the piss isn't she don't be fooled by the rocks that I got, I'm just HelloHangoverz from the block 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 92,361 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, HelloHangoverz said: she's really taking the piss isn't she Happy mediocrity day Je ne parle pas français but I can padam if you like 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloHangoverz 5,161 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Just now, River said: Happy mediocrity day All's fair in love and scammery don't be fooled by the rocks that I got, I'm just HelloHangoverz from the block 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelloHangoverz 5,161 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 4 hours ago, Ladle Ghoulash said: âTo a Melbourne audience of her Eras Tour, Swift said that âThe Tortured Poets Departmentâ came from a âneedâ to write. Itâs just that maybe we didnât need to hear it.ââ NME breaking cover for philanthrophic reasons. There is still good in this world don't be fooled by the rocks that I got, I'm just HelloHangoverz from the block 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Featured Comment HausOfMark 4,118 Posted April 19 Author Featured Comment Share Posted April 19 Since creating this thread... she released "The Tortured Poets Department - The Anthology" Â Favorite tracks from this? -Mark 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 5,634 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 17 minutes ago, River said: Sorry but, you really don't understand the whole situation or you do but choose to sugarcoat it  I understand it perfectly? Youâre saying people were scammed into buying vinyls on the back of a promise of an exclusive track when the reality was those tracks were going to be made available as a part of an extended version of the album and were not in fact exclusive to that vinyl and that said vinyl was not the full album. And I made the point that yes, pretty much the whole fanbase knew going in that those songs were not going to be exclusive to that vinyl. The artworks was the attraction. The double album theory has been floating around since the album was announced. The fanbase was not really taken by surprise that there was more material, the surprise was just how much of it there was. Again, we knew what we were buying when we bought it. We knew those vinyls werenât gonna have exclusive âcan only get it hereâ music. And we also were pretty confident that it wasn't gonna be every song she had ready to release either. You were taken by surprise with this. Swifties were not. Edited April 19 by Future Lovers 3 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 1,068 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 also werenât yall just complaining about her doing the this vinyl only has this exclusive and this vinyl only had this exclusive track so like what is it?? are u mad at the exclusivity or mad at the demand for more music and her supplying it?? like which hill are yall trying to fight on 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doraemon 720 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Cassandra's melodies screams Singapore Airlines Safety Video instrumental!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 1,068 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) like yall are acting dense as if 99% of the world doesnât have access to a streaming site or as if EVERYONE bought her album on preorder  like are u mad at her for making those physical tracks exclusive or making the entire thing digitally accessible   Edited April 19 by LadyxGaGa Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future Lovers 5,634 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19  1 minute ago, LadyxGaGa said: like yall are acting dense as if 99% of the world doesnât have access to a streaming site or as if EVERYONE bought her album on preorder  like are u mad at her for making those physically tracks exclusive or making the entire thing digitally accessible   It's so fascinating watching people get so upset about a situation that literally doesn't impact them in any conceivable way. They didn't buy one of the vinyls so literally what is there for them to be upset about other than it gives them something to harp on for their unhealthy obsession with not liking a celebrity? 4 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyxGaGa 1,068 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 minutes ago, LadyxGaGa said: like yall are acting dense as if 99% of the world doesnât have access to a streaming site or as if EVERYONE bought her album on preorder  like are u mad at her for making those physical tracks exclusive or making the entire thing digitally accessible    Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco 1,990 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 13 minutes ago, River said: nobody knew about the second album, it was just a speculation Usually the bonus tracks come to streaming a few months after release, not 2 hours after in a second album... which invalidate their "bonus track" statue The bonus album isn't on physical so it's relevance to the physical editions of the Std album is pretty much irrelevant. I absolutely think the tactic this launch to have 4 unique bonus tracks was a bad one and very predatory. But the fact is that their release on digital streaming does not invalidate their "bonus track" state on their specific physical edition - they remain an exclusive/a bonus w/e you want to call it to their respective physical edition. But with the exception of Target paid for exclusives, or for artists that still do specific Japan editions, there's very few albums produced in the streaming era by any artist which have bonus tracks that aren't put instantly onto streaming to profit. Even before streaming, these deluxe editions/bonus tracks were made available for purchase on release day if not put up for advanced pre-order. Hell even the OG bonus tracks - hidden tracks at the end of an album - were made instantly available on itunes when that launched. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinfullota 294 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Listened to the first half of the album and it's a snoozefest. It's like I've been listening to the same song for 4 albums now. She needs to work with different producers and let other people write for her, cause her songwriting doesn't make sense. It's like random sentences put together by a 15 year old high school girl. 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illuminati 15,408 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 28 minutes ago, River said: Sorry but, you really don't understand the whole situation or you do but choose to sugarcoat it I think you're intentionally being disingenuous because you don't like her. Your argument being that tracks should remain off streaming like Love Me Right is also, well, a choice. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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