Kit Connor comes out as bi

[lilboyblue 5,351]

And he's so young, he doesn't deserve this. He's still probably figure out his identity himself. And that time has been taken away from him as well.

Heartstopper is amazing. Why couldn't people just enjoy it for what it is regardless of what the actors' sexualities are irl? I mean with Asian BLs, this isn't much of a problem and the most popular actors there are mostly accepted as straight.

[phantasmas 10,606]

chile, I thought he was already out lol

[blzr 1,586]

Gays don’t own queerness it’s everyone’s to enjoy, end of discussion 

[Not The Real Gaga 7,545]

2 hours ago, phantasmas said:

chile, I thought he was already out lol

Same tbh

[thatboyisarobot 152]

6 hours ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

There is a difference between a 18 yo guy who doesn't want to discuss it and get forced to and an adult who does discuss it openly since years and keep it a discussion point by making frequent yet vague public statements ( mainly when he has something to promote ) after observing most of the buzz he got came from these queerness talks about him. Each case is different so the comparison wouldn't be accurate here and that's probably why you don't see people reacting the same way at all.

I hope to God you aren't friends with any closeted queer folks, because stuff like this does so much harm. You can experiment with your sexuality at any age. You are allowed to experiment with sexuality in your art. We do not know what Harry's sexuality is. Maybe he doesn't either, that's ok. Sexuality is not an unchanging, empirical fact, it's subjective and fluid. Harry waving pride flags, helping fans come out, and using a varied gender presentation in his work is not exploitation, no matter how you try to dress it up. Queer folks are more oppressed as wage laborers than celebrities engaging queer culture. Stop pretending that your subjective assessment of anyone's mental state or identification actually correlates to their actual experience. If you don't like a celebrity, cool. You don't need to "justify" that opinion by making cynical accusations. Queer and questioning folks are more harmed by these accusations than any celebrity engaging queer culture or playing with gender norms.

[Meruk Holland 2,279]

7 hours ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

There is a difference between a 18 yo guy who doesn't want to discuss it and get forced to and an adult who does discuss it openly since years and keep it a discussion point by making frequent yet vague public statements ( mainly when he has something to promote ) after observing most of the buzz he got came from these queerness talks about him. Each case is different so the comparison wouldn't be accurate here and that's probably why you don't see people reacting the same way at all.

That's actually been one of my biggest problems with a lot of sentiment in this thread so far. That Kit's youth is why its different, that he's at an age where he should be "finding himself." Self-awareness and self-image is a life-long process. It doesn't end once you become an "adult." 

I personally didn't identify as nonbinary until I was 26. Largely in part because I wasn't aware of the term, but also because I was quite proud of my gay identity. I thought that if I didn't also identify as a man, I couldn't remain gay. And that label was important to me, because it gave me a sense of solidarity and validation. But even after I did finally identify as nonbinary, nothing changed outwardly. I still presented exactly the same, no one around me was aware of the change unless I told them. I was already queer, so nobody really bat an eye, but had I been cis-het? I definitely think there would have been a lot more resistance and confusion from those around me about my gender noncomforming expression, even if I eventually had come out as nonbinary.

 

[Guillaume Hamon 6,531]

2 hours ago, thatboyisarobot said:

I hope to God you aren't friends with any closeted queer folks, because stuff like this does so much harm.

I am and was since a long time and never hurt one of them so your assumptions are proven wrong already. Also none of them were exploiting rumors about them for personal gain so that's a big difference.

2 hours ago, thatboyisarobot said:

You can experiment with your sexuality at any age. You are allowed to experiment with sexuality in your art. We do not know what Harry's sexuality is. Maybe he doesn't either, that's ok. Sexuality is not an unchanging, empirical fact, it's subjective and fluid.

Never said the opposite and you can absolutely do all that following your own path without using it for attention. It's not adversarial at all.

2 hours ago, thatboyisarobot said:

Harry waving pride flags, helping fans come out, and using a varied gender presentation in his work is not exploitation, no matter how you try to dress it up.

I mentioned his own statements about it in the comment you answer to cause that's what come across as calculated for buzz to me. Cause I don't try to "dress up" anything, I just give my opinion like you give yours saying you think he's never calculated with it.

2 hours ago, thatboyisarobot said:

Queer folks are more oppressed as wage laborers than celebrities engaging queer culture.

Well I didn't say the opposite of that either and again I'm not blaming someone for engaging queer culture, I just feel it's not all what he's doing.

2 hours ago, thatboyisarobot said:

Stop pretending that your subjective assessment of anyone's mental state or identification actually correlates to their actual experience.

But your perception of him is also subjective by definition. You chose to believe it and I would never ask you to "stop" btw.

2 hours ago, thatboyisarobot said:

If you don't like a celebrity, cool.

Oh I disagree with you on this so I can only be a hater... Okay...

That's actually the only thing I would dislike about him tbf so no it's not about a personal vendetta I have against him lol... If anyone here seems motivated by one it's you coming in this thread with a quite agressive first comment that was clearly meant as a revenge on certain members over months old threads.

2 hours ago, thatboyisarobot said:

You don't need to "justify" that opinion by making cynical accusations.

You find me cynical like I could find you naive seing he can't ignore how much it profited his career early on and how he kept frequently bringing these buzz givers statements, essentially during promo times and always the right way to not kill any mystery to preserve future buzz while also never loosing any interest from any part of his audience but okay... I have to be an hypocritical hater making up things if I disagree with you. Got it lol.

2 hours ago, thatboyisarobot said:

Queer and questioning folks are more harmed by these accusations than any celebrity engaging queer culture or playing with gender norms.

You missed my point since these folks, just like Kit Connor, are not getting anything out of their situations. This dude is literally the only person I ever thought was using it seing his reactions are keeping it a discussion subject in a way that profits him a lot since a long time while he can't be ignore it. Different situations again so we're going back to my former answer you disagreed with so I gonna stop debating it with you here. Peace out. ✌️

[Guillaume Hamon 6,531]

53 minutes ago, Meruk Holland said:

That's actually been one of my biggest problems with a lot of sentiment in this thread so far. That Kit's youth is why its different, that he's at an age where he should be "finding himself." Self-awareness and self-image is a life-long process. It doesn't end once you become an "adult." 

I personally didn't identify as nonbinary until I was 26. Largely in part because I wasn't aware of the term, but also because I was quite proud of my gay identity. I thought that if I didn't also identify as a man, I couldn't remain gay. And that label was important to me, because it gave me a sense of solidarity and validation. But even after I did finally identify as nonbinary, nothing changed outwardly. I still presented exactly the same, no one around me was aware of the change unless I told them. I was already queer, so nobody really bat an eye, but had I been cis-het? I definitely think there would have been a lot more resistance and confusion from those around me about my gender noncomforming expression, even if I eventually had come out as nonbinary.

 

I just mentioned his age with the fact it was forced cause a forced outing is brutal and even more brutal on a guy who's barely major. Of course your identity can change with time. What makes a difference here to me between both cases is the way it was beneficial to one man who imo used it but violent on a kid who was victimized. My bad if it was blurry. 

[Andrea B 16,755]

4 hours ago, thatboyisarobot said:

I hope to God you aren't friends with any closeted queer folks, because stuff like this does so much harm. You can experiment with your sexuality at any age. You are allowed to experiment with sexuality in your art. We do not know what Harry's sexuality is. Maybe he doesn't either, that's ok. Sexuality is not an unchanging, empirical fact, it's subjective and fluid. Harry waving pride flags, helping fans come out, and using a varied gender presentation in his work is not exploitation, no matter how you try to dress it up. Queer folks are more oppressed as wage laborers than celebrities engaging queer culture. Stop pretending that your subjective assessment of anyone's mental state or identification actually correlates to their actual experience. If you don't like a celebrity, cool. You don't need to "justify" that opinion by making cynical accusations. Queer and questioning folks are more harmed by these accusations than any celebrity engaging queer culture or playing with gender norms.

some queer people are so entitled and ignorant. They make these rules and decide who can be queer and who can't.

[SarahYuko 1,002]

I only know I'm bi because I fell in love with a girl, but circumstances have just been that I've only dated two guys in my whole life. I know exactly what that sounds like to people, as if I label myself as bi for attention. But I also know the apprehension that comes with knowing something but being unable to demonstrate it. And we shouldn't have to even feel that way.

 

Hope for the best for Kit. This is awful

 

[misha4ever 2,075]

 

On 10/31/2022 at 7:15 PM, Pennywise said:

Was he blackmailed or something? Or was he like in a show and was pressured by fans? 

I read there was a petition to pressure Netflix to fire him because he didn't want to publicly disclose his sexual preference and was supposedly dating a woman.

[misha4ever 2,075]

And besides, the "jokes" around Harry Styles are because he dress feminine sometimes, right? Calling a few pieces of clothes "queerbaiting".

Isn't the point of the whole accepting movement to make masculinity less toxic? Like, mock him for having bad taste at dressing but not for using a damn blouse.

 

Also stop with the damn gay jokes to Shawn Mendes... Do it in your mind like a normal person

 

[Guillaume Hamon 6,531]

On 11/1/2022 at 6:20 PM, andrea brisea said:

some queer people are so entitled and ignorant. They make these rules and decide who can be queer and who can't.

I didn't "decide who can be queer" since that's not my point to say he is or isn't and that wouldn't change my actual point. Understand what you read before to blame folks lol.

[Andrea B 16,755]

3 hours ago, Guillaume Hamon said:

I didn't "decide who can be queer" since that's not my point to say he is or isn't and that wouldn't change my actual point. Understand what you read before to blame folks lol.

[RichAssPiss 4,936]

Can you now maybe stop harassing men in entertainment to out themselves or else face backlash for "queer baiting" through their self-exploratory style of dress and social experiences? K, Thanks.