Talks about why Gaga's not nominated

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1 hour ago, WheresMy911Alice said:

But she can sometimes come off arrogant, showboaty, or know-it-all. Even my mom said something during her recent appearance (not the LensCrafters one, the one before, can't remember which Late Night host but it was in November right before the film released) She loves Gaga, but she even said something like, "Gosh she really does overthink everything right?"

Tbh that's one reason why I love her

ARTPOP was really the peak of PretentiousGa and I love when she gets all into herself like that.

And my previous point still stands, if she missed out on the Oscar 'cause they didn't like her campaigning style then Oscars aren't awards for acting, they're awards for appeasing the whims of a hand full of people...in other words, they're meaningless 

I will keep this energy even when she wins again. I love when she's recognized and her talent gets celebrated, she is the hype after all, but these ceremonies and the awards themselves are soooo dumb

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i'll be happy that she never received any other oscar nomination if that means that gaga has to change the way she talks about the process, the art and the craft in order of pleasing a standard, f*ck them!

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and i hate those comments "let the work speak for itself" so we're not even allowed to talk about our own art anymore the way we want and because we are passionate and being honest about it? please stop saying this

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I'm a huge Gaga fan...

But I have to agree that there was little substance to what Gaga said in interviews when talking about method acting.

The repetitive way she talked about it and the actual quoting of acting teachers'/ pioneers' names was the worst.

It all sounded a little "desperate to prove I know acting" in my opinion. Even if that wasn't the intention.

More talk on Patrizia would have been better.

The truth is the writing and execution of the film was awful. She didn't have good material to work on.

The film doesn't know if it's a romantic comedy or a drama. It didn't do both well.

I know she will shine 100% brighter with the right script and film.

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I don't doubt that this turned some people off from her, but I don't think it was the primary reason. 

The leading actress category is always a hard fought race, and there are very few years that are exceptions to that. This year was indeed a tight year, and an especially tight one at that. That's why I have said before and I'll reiterate that hitting the big milestones before the Oscar nominations can sometimes be deceptive. Yes, often times it is a good indication of what the industry is feeling, but it is never a promise. At the end of the day, the Academy is a completely separate entity from every other award show and they have the largest and most diverse voting body of all of them. 

It doesn't matter how many precursors someone hits, it will always come down to what the Academy voters decide. They watch the other shows absolutely, but this doesn't dictate what they do or don't do. 

Academy voting is done preferentially meaning that voters rank their choices, not cast a vote for a single choice. This means that in order to secure a nomination, you need to be getting consistently ranked in the top three or four. It wasn't that the voting body didn't like Gaga's performance, it was probably just that they ranked her behind certain others. This wasn't individually them attempting to slight her, it just in the end came out that collectively she didn't have the numbers to make the cut. 

This year was fiercely competitive, none of these women got in there easily. They all had to push for it. And while yes it's unfortunate Gaga didn't get a nomination, you cannot look at that list and say that most of those women don't also deserve it. The only one I'd concede to you is Nicole Kidman because she has no business being there but her nomination is a whole other story for another time. 

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If this is in fact true... why does an actors presence in interviews factor in? Shouldn't the professionals who are reviewing the films be reviewing the performances in the film? Not the personality of the actor in interviews. Unprofessional...

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16 minutes ago, Helxig said:

If this is in fact true... why does an actors presence in interviews factor in? Shouldn't the professionals who are reviewing the films be reviewing the performances in the film? Not the personality of the actor in interviews. Unprofessional...

Well human beings are objective creatures, even though the rule asks you to vote solely based on performances, that doesn't prevent people vote what they like, from performance to actor, the film director or the film itself.I'm not surprised that If a person has personal vendetta to a producer, he might snub any awards from that film as long as he feels like it.

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I felt like she just overexplained herself so much. It made her look insecure imo

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3 hours ago, enissa11 said:

and i hate those comments "let the work speak for itself" so we're not even allowed to talk about our own art anymore the way we want and because we are passionate and being honest about it? please stop saying this

Well just in terms of "if you want to get an oscar", it helps to "play the game" I guess

The art is still the same with or without getting an award for it, so it's up to each artist if they want to do that or not. But yeah, it's weird

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Reading the comments on the Daily Mail about Gaga’s snub, the top-rated comment was about Gaga’s Russian accent, then there were others who just wanted anyone EXCEPT Gaga to be nominated. I think Gaga’s campaign junket offended many who wanted the film to be campy and not-so-serious, instead of hearing Gaga sounding intellectual and talking about Lee Strasbourg - when she plays a killer. Anyway the most disliked comment, however, was one that praised Kristen Stewarts nomination so 

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Gaga is like this

its a safety net for interviews and how she likes to be as well. She is mostly a serious person.

lol as if music is more subjective than film. She usually overexplains in music. Where sonetimes even says one thing the another.

she still generatesi a loro of buzz. And this around she was more playful. 
 

let her be her, thats also just a part of it. there are other factors 

ofc method acting as a promotion tool for headlines is a bit boring in 2021. In fact i always get annoyed by it. but its her experiente and its obviou it was intense for her. And it usually is, she like that and its main ressones like her

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I think Gaga shouldn’t do anymore interviews. Little Monsters insist that this is her way, but it always hurts her brand.

Y’all need to understand that just because she is Lady Gaga things she says will receive more attention than any actor’s campaign. It’s necessary to adjust her speech to her fame level.

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4 hours ago, enissa11 said:

i'll be happy that she never received any other oscar nomination if that means that gaga has to change the way she talks about the process, the art and the craft in order of pleasing a standard, f*ck them!

same, this is why i love her and have been following her for all these years. idc what nonsense she says, because i know she genuinely means it. she's been like that since the beginning, when she didn't give a s**t about d**k rumours or when she talking about artpop. people get snubbed all the time, even the ones who say things academy voters want to hear or industry wants them to say, so why Gaga should change the way she feels about her craft? she's Oscar winner and Grammy winner, Golden Globe and CCA's winner, she's clearly doing everything right imo. 

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4 hours ago, PartySick said:

Tbh that's one reason why I love her

ARTPOP was really the peak of PretentiousGa and I love when she gets all into herself like that.

And my previous point still stands, if she missed out on the Oscar 'cause they didn't like her campaigning style then Oscars aren't awards for acting, they're awards for appeasing the whims of a hand full of people...in other words, they're meaningless 

I will keep this energy even when she wins again. I love when she's recognized and her talent gets celebrated, she is the hype after all, but these ceremonies and the awards themselves are soooo dumb

I didn't say I didn't like it sweet tea, I just said it comes across a certain way to the untrained eye if you don't know her like us culties 

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i still don’t think this was the main reason, but i think it was a factor. even i found myself cringing often as i scrolled through twitter and saw her quotes from that day. (again though, i don’t think 90% of oscar voters are tuned into this stuff day after day like we are, which is why i don’t think it was the main reason.)

i just think the “i wanted to be an actress much more than i wanted to be a singer” bit is so silly!! she shouldn’t downplay her music career like that AND the world has spent 15 years hearing about and seeing pictures of her banging on a piano and writing songs from the time she could walk. it just comes off as fake in my opinion. (even though on some level, i think in the moment of these interviews gaga truly believes that to be the case as i’m sure some part of her probably did think about acting way back then. she is so committed to the bit that i feel like during any given press tour, she believes what she’s saying even if it completely contradicts the last press tour.)

one of my favorite interviews she’s ever done was colbert for ASIB. even though she would go on to repeat the same stories over and over again, this was early in the cycle so it was mostly new to me. i can’t really put my finger on it but i just love the way she comes across in it. because of that, i was really looking forward to colbert this time, but i didn’t care for that interview at all. i can’t really explain why, but it just didn’t do it for me. 

at some point in the colbert interview for ASIB, she talked about how in a way she made characters up for herself (especially during the first 7ish years of her career) as her own way of becoming an actress. i think if she wants to push a narrative, the industry is way more likely to go for something like that. (even though in reality i think even “real person gaga” / joanne gaga is a character in it of itself, which is why we love her so much.)

again, i don’t think this was the main reason at all. i think she got tons of votes, but not enough #1 votes. we were worried about that going into this…a lot of people wanted her to be nominated but not enough wanted her to win. i think even a lot of us agreed that it’s not quite time for her to fully win yet, so it makes sense that the average voter felt the same way unfortunately