Cssomeone 1,646 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 13 hours ago, jacs vs looser said: My biggest concern for her chances of winning is the fact that the movie itself wasn't critically aclaimed. It shouldn't be a factor, but unfortunately it's always this way with awards, a lot of things get considered not just merit itself. I think maybe Kristen might still get the CC, perhaps awards for best leading actress will be spred out this season? I mean, Nicole already took home the GG, if that's anything to go by Something this season has proved is that Academies/Associations couldn't care less about critics. Kristen Stewart won many awards from critic circles, but failed to get major award nominations. 'Dont Look Up', for instance, was trashed my critics (it currently has a 49 score on Metacritic), but managed to get several nominations at important awards (SAG, BAFTA) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilyLark 10,104 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 10 hours ago, RichAssPiss said: A fact is that hitting the precursors doesn't guarantee an Oscar nomination. It is not "negative" to say so. It is neutral and factual. Your interpretation as to why a certain performer missed that nomination is not a fact. It's an opinion. Sis people on twitter have been nasty. A lot of us discussing film on here, like Denis, Meat, and I have been fair (that's not to say people on here can't be snarky, but it's nowhere near as bad as you are making it out to be...frankly pop threads get a lot nastier). I like Kristen and hope she gets nominated. And yes, it's rare but people can hit all the precursors and still miss. However, due to the new BAFTA rules it would be a shock if Gaga did....she was one of the top 2 vote getters. There's no guarantee that people in the past who hit all the precursors and missed were one of the top 2 vote getters. And the academy hates sci fi...so that's why Amy missed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I don’t think she deserves an oscar for this movie but would love to see her win the others Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,872 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 What I'm thrown by is how the BAFTAs didn't give a nomination to Nicole despite Being The Ricardos being up for 2 awards. An outright snub of the movie would've made more sense but to acknowledge it yet shut it out of the acting categories says a lot. And even more shockingly, The Lost Daughter was also up for 2 awards but Olivia missed out despite her co-star getting a nod for best supporting actress! That must really sting. It amazes me because British awards committees usually love Olivia and she won for her last big lead role at the BAFTAs and yet this time, it's like she was invisible to them. I've never watched these other movies or heard much about them other than Passing, so it's left me scratching my head, to say the least. At this rate, who knows what the Oscars are going to look like. It's great to feel so vindicated to see Gaga doing this when there were rumblings in rival fanbases that she was going to be like Madonna in Evita and J-Lo in Hustlers when they were getting nominated at all the major awards but missed out on the Oscars. They fail to realise that J-Lo failed to get a BAFTA or Critics Choice nomination and the only major award Madonna was nominated for was a Golden Globe, meaning that they never stood any real chance at the Oscars to begin with whereas Gaga has been nominated at all the major cornerstones, so she has every chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfio 97 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 On 2/4/2022 at 12:20 PM, Cssomeone said: Something this season has proved is that Academies/Associations couldn't care less about critics. Kristen Stewart won many awards from critic circles, but failed to get major award nominations. 'Dont Look Up', for instance, was trashed my critics (it currently has a 49 score on Metacritic), but managed to get several nominations at important awards (SAG, BAFTA) This! It can also help on Gaga's campaign as she clearly carried that movie alongside Jared Leto. She could be depicted as the standout from the ̶t̶ r̶ ash. It's also unbelievable how amazing her campaign is both for the movie and the music with Tony Bennett. I just love how she's got to know the right people and attended the right events throughout her career. She made good choices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
julz 7,166 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 58 minutes ago, alfio said: This! It can also help on Gaga's campaign as she clearly carried that movie alongside Jared Leto. She could be depicted as the standout from the ̶t̶ r̶ ash. It's also unbelievable how amazing her campaign is both for the movie and the music with Tony Bennett. I just love how she's got to know the right people and attended the right events throughout her career. She made good choices. Agree, she really made good choices..and i hope that she continues to be guided well by many great and kind people so that she achieves the things she really, really want to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat 18,962 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 On 2/4/2022 at 3:43 PM, AnnaNicoleSmith said: I don’t think she deserves an oscar for this movie but would love to see her win the others If you watch all the movies she’s competing with then you won’t say that lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades 27,980 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Hope she wins that Oscar. That Olivia girl is so overrated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Meister 3,000 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 5 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said: What I'm thrown by is how the BAFTAs didn't give a nomination to Nicole despite Being The Ricardos being up for 2 awards. An outright snub of the movie would've made more sense but to acknowledge it yet shut it out of the acting categories says a lot. And even more shockingly, The Lost Daughter was also up for 2 awards but Olivia missed out despite her co-star getting a nod for best supporting actress! That must really sting. It amazes me because British awards committees usually love Olivia and she won for her last big lead role at the BAFTAs and yet this time, it's like she was invisible to them. I've never watched these other movies or heard much about them other than Passing, so it's left me scratching my head, to say the least. At this rate, who knows what the Oscars are going to look like. It's great to feel so vindicated to see Gaga doing this when there were rumblings in rival fanbases that she was going to be like Madonna in Evita and J-Lo in Hustlers when they were getting nominated at all the major awards but missed out on the Oscars. They fail to realise that J-Lo failed to get a BAFTA or Critics Choice nomination and the only major award Madonna was nominated for was a Golden Globe, meaning that they never stood any real chance at the Oscars to begin with whereas Gaga has been nominated at all the major cornerstones, so she has every chance. I've lost hope in award shows a long time. It's all about names that can bring revenue to the show & artists that make big "donations" these organizations, and they easily get nominated for that. Gaga for sure is one of them that make huge donations, it's much less about the talent (we can clearly see that her acting is still very amateurish compared to Olivia). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Meat said: If you watch all the movies she’s competing with then you won’t say that lol Well I said what I said and I stick to that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arloway 147 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Why are people keep saying things like "she doesn't deserve this, i hope she miss" on Gaga forum? Does this become a Madonna/Britney fans forum already? If you check past winner, you can easily find actors that are "underserving" in that year. Yet they are the ones being remembered as Academy winners. Some are even saying they hope she win in a future film. I'm just telling you that it will get harder and harder to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arloway 147 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 Under the Bafta new rule, it will be difficult for actors that hit all 4 precursors to hit. Last year, everyone that hit all 4 precursors get the Oscar nomination. It happens more in the past because there are always more people get in all 4, and thus the ones that are at 4th/5th spot will be at risk. Some people mentioned Amy Adams, well she's clearly behind Stone, Hupert, Portman during that year. Plus, she's in a sci-fi film, and she also had another film in contention that may divide her votes elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfio 97 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 15 minutes ago, Arloway said: Why are people keep saying things like "she doesn't deserve this, i hope she miss" on Gaga forum? Does this become a Madonna/Britney fans forum already? If you check past winner, you can easily find actors that are "underserving" in that year. Yet they are the ones being remembered as Academy winners. Some are even saying they hope she win in a future film. I'm just telling you that it will get harder and harder to win. I would like to think that their opinions are influenced by film twitter. But after seeing the BAFTA noms and how they skipped so much of Gaga's contenders (Coleman, Kidman, Stewart, etc.) film twitter has taken a second look at Gaga, even putting Ms. L. Gaga now as their top 1. As the famous philosopher said: "there can be 100 people in a room and 99 of them believe in Kristen Stewart but all it takes is one BAFTA and it just changes your whole life" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arloway 147 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 1 minute ago, alfio said: As the famous philosopher said: "there can be 100 people in a room and 99 of them believe in Kristen Stewart but all it takes is one BAFTA and it just changes your whole life" LMFAO!! Poor Kristen though she took all the jinx this season. I hope they keep underestimating LG and keep their jinx away from her. But yea, people that go on twitter a lot like to live in the echo chamber that repeat the same thing over and over. It's not like Hog is a masterpiece but it's not nearly as bad as twitter has been claiming. People need to think clearly whether they really hate the film, or do they just want to be on the same page with film twitter. I think the industry people have their answers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfio 97 Posted February 7, 2022 Share Posted February 7, 2022 22 hours ago, Der Meister said: I've lost hope in award shows a long time. It's all about names that can bring revenue to the show & artists that make big "donations" these organizations, and they easily get nominated for that. Gaga for sure is one of them that make huge donations, it's much less about the talent (we can clearly see that her acting is still very amateurish compared to Olivia). If you'll be comparing Olivia's recent performance to Gaga's, Gaga's would centainly look unchallenging as she plays the role of Patrizia compared the role Olivia played. Regardless of her unparalleled campaigning right now, Gaga is shortlisted/longlisted in a lot of predictions from critics. She had the critical acclaim to the portrayal of her role as well. DO NOT DISMISS THE TALENT. And talent includes choosing the roles to pick that is enough to secure award nominations, she did that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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