Future Lovers 7,720 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 There seem to be quite a few people here who don’t understand how the US political system works and it shows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardlyaSaint 727 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Sepsami said: Am I wrong for saying 80 year olds shouldn't be president? No. If that’s the age most people end up in nursing homes or are told they need to have supervision/routine assistance then they’re definitely not fit to run a nation. The average life span is around 80-85 anyways. (I’m not saying all elderly people are physically, cognitively and or logically incompetent — just saying there should be a bar) 30/35-65 should be the presidential candidacy age limit. Nobody should be running a country that late in their life— they're just going to drag it down to the grave with them. I know that sounds messed up but it’s logic. It’s also evident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speak Easy 324 Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 11 hours ago, CommonWhiteGirl said: If trump decides to run against Biden in 2024, I think it'll be a toss up. I can see either of them winning basically by extremely small margins on either side. The cards are in the Democrats hands currently. They have an option to either continue down the Biden path, or he can step down and let someone else take the reigns and the Dems can primary. There is no doubt in my mind that trump will run again. With all the legal trouble that he's in, the only way he can actually save himself is by abusing the oval office. His ego is too big to let someone else take the republican party and bail him out, so unless he ends up in prison or is too ill to run, he will 100% run in 2024 against whoever the Dems decide to go with. That actually is an excellent point I didn’t think about. Him being in legal trouble is encouraging him, not stopping him, from running. It’s the only way he can save his own ass. Ironically, Democrats trying to crack down on him now are kind of shooting themselves in the foot because if he thinks he needs to get out of trouble, he obviously will lie and gaslight and do whatever it takes to win again. Best point today honestly! I’m even more convinced he will definitely try and run again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speak Easy 324 Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 6 hours ago, No Way Home said: There seem to be quite a few people here who don’t understand how the US political system works and it shows How so? More detail please by what you mean! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speak Easy 324 Posted December 12, 2021 Author Share Posted December 12, 2021 9 hours ago, SpadesToStart said: I don’t think Trump would win as the Republican candidate. After Covid and the Insurrection, he’s toast with independent voters. And while he has fervent supporters, him being the nominee would equally galvanize the left. A different Republican could potentially win. But it’s difficult to unseat a sitting president, so the country would have to be in a particularly bad place in 2024. I think you underestimate the loyalty of the right. (One thing republicans fo better is stick together, and if it comes down to it, right leaning independents will choose Trump if they have to). This is where Democrats fail…and why Biden will be very divisive in 2024. Young liberals do not see themselves in an 80 year old white man that is showing signs of Alzheimer’s. And it’s kind of offensive of the Democratic Party for them to expect us Millennials and Gen Z’ers to continue to support that crap. We aren’t interested in supporting someone because they are nice and say nice things and it’s “their turn”. **** that! We want real, tangible, activated change. Enough of the black and Latino and gay pandering corporate neoliberal bullshit and let’s make change with people who still have the desire to make change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Rolas 163 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 If this makes you feel better I don't think he will. He did nothing good all during his government, people who voted for him did it because "they needed a change" but now that they got a taste of that change there's no more reasons left to vote for him. Maestro play me your symphony I will listen to anything Take me on a trip DJ free my mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightStar 313 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I don't have any intent to downplay your concerns or something, but there are still two full calendar years before New Hampshire primaries. Don't you think the Dems can count on some soar in electoral rating if the epidemic is thwarted ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoldeLorde2 8,389 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 The anti-vax whiners on this site should be surprising, but the quality of this site has gone down so it’s no surprise the users have as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextyr97 20,826 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Honestly I still think it’s too early to tell. Gas prices rose because of massive back to office spikes. Gas companies couldn’t keep up with the demand. Even with current prices (well I actually read about it a couple weeks ago, so it’s likely outdated), they were still selling at a loss. So hopefully it’ll even out soon once supply catches up to demand, which it looks like is starting to happen. And let’s not forget that a ton of the issues we see nowadays (shortages, supply chain issues, even gas prices, etc), are thanks to COVID. COVID is an issue because a certain group ignored it for too long. Now we are seeing the long domino effect. All I mean to say is that everything is finally beginning to clash creating the perfect storm. I understand that some of us want people fined for not getting vaccinated (myself included), but US is a country that hails on “freedom” aka having the choice. Gov is probably afraid to fine people because of the massive backlash that will happen (who knows how violent it could get). Personally, I think they should just have a vaccine mandate. You can’t get in any public place without a vaccine. I think it could go a long way. My two cents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
President Biden 5,898 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 23 hours ago, Shaney said: Do you actually have a defense for yourself or are you just going to name call? Considering this entire thread has mo offensive and is just biting into Fox talking points, no. I dont need a defense I got drunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuffsAhoy 7,433 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 hours ago, NightStar said: Don't you think the Dems can count on some soar in electoral rating if the epidemic is thwarted ? Considering they are the party that's hell bent on prolonging the pandemic and punishing the vaccinated instead of the unvaxed, nope. Their pandemic response is one reason I changed by registration to independent. You remind me that it's such a wonderful thing to love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaney 5,515 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 hours ago, VoldeLorde2 said: The anti-vax whiners on this site should be surprising, but the quality of this site has gone down so it’s no surprise the users have as well. I don’t think anyone is anti-vax in this thread. The issue is with the mandates. I don’t think anyone should be mandated for a vaccine. It’s pretty dystopian. I also don’t trust Pfizer really, the clinical lab they hired (Vantavia) was investigated for improper lab procedures and not storing vaccines at proper temps, and inputting incorrect data into the research. This was done after an employee voiced her concerns and she was fired subsequently. Funnily enough, only four out of the hundred-ish facilities were actually investigated. Also, nobody mentions that the vaccine is considered “leaky” which is an actual medical term. It only has about a 60% chance at protecting someone from the virus, which is why people are still getting COVID after the vaccine. Even after getting vaccinated, you can still spread the virus just as much as someone who is unvaccinated. We should be looking at the Omicron variant as an opportunity to have natural immunity since the symptoms of Omicron are more mild and then the natural immunity is actually better than the vaccine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceres 3,360 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 side note, staying in the hospital last 2 weeks- all I saw on any news station was negative outlooks on Covid outbreaks, global warming studies, Rising prices on Gas (but now Biden has them lowered?) For someone already upset about their diagnosis it was really putting me in a bad mood; can't imagine the US all collectively being more depressed. If there is no new messaging from the Dems side I wouldn't be surprised if the GOP wins midterms and 2024 ✧ ✧ ✧ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayesha Erotica 1,925 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 It is too early to tell now. Everything is possible. However, Americas economy will be rock bottom in 2024, so Trump winning again is possible, yet also Ivanka might win and guys we don't even know if Biden will make it until 2024 Rumor has it Camala Harris will replace him in 2 years Your boyfriend comes over with a bit of gun oil Says he wants to step on new soil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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