Gaga felt like she actually killed Maurizio

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8 hours ago, Juniper said:

If she was truly in Patrizia mode, she wouldn’t have said “what have I done?” — she’d spit on the spot screaming “C*zzo! ” because Patrizia is not sorry at all. 18 years in prison, no guilt, no shame. 

Gaga had said that she believes Patrizia regrets it (in one of the q&a) so maybe she was coming from that place of mind

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14 minutes ago, Ivy said:

Gaga had said that she believes Patrizia regrets it (in one of the q&a) so maybe she was coming from that place of mind

and in any case, it has to be in consonance of the character she and the director constructed, not whatever the stage would be currently for the person in real life.

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it makes me laugh how some ppl here judge her pretending to know more about the character than gaga herself who spend months and months researching her, go outside for a reality check, touch some grass...

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Yeah, um that’s not what she said nor meant.

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16 hours ago, enissa11 said:

she now has that 0 remorse strong personality shelve in interviews of course, but she tried to commit suicide shortly after being condemned in jail, so she for sure had remorse, that's why gaga didn't want to meet her, she for sure would lie to her.

She was sent to prison several years after the murder so she had plenty of time to consider what she’d done. I feel like her suicide attempt was a “woe is me” for getting caught. She sat through the trial convinced she’d get away with it. Even if she knows what she did is wrong, I don’t feel sorry for her. She sued her own daughters for money the day she got out. 

In interviews she can stare into the camera and say “Maurizio, forgive me. I love you.” and then 30 seconds later talk about how weak and measly he was. It’s all about her. She truly is a sociopath and I’ve been watching everything I can find about her ever since I found out Gaga was casted for the role. I even relate to Pateizia a bit since she had a brain tumor — which I was diagnosed with this year and is still undergoing medication and treatment for. 

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44 minutes ago, Juniper said:

She was sent to prison several years after the murder so she had plenty of time to consider what she’d done. I feel like her suicide attempt was a “woe is me” for getting caught. She sat through the trial convinced she’d get away with it. Even if she knows what she did is wrong, I don’t feel sorry for her. She sued her own daughters for money the day she got out. 

In interviews she can stare into the camera and say “Maurizio, forgive me. I love you.” and then 30 seconds later talk about how weak and measly he was. It’s all about her. She truly is a sociopath and I’ve been watching everything I can find about her ever since I found out Gaga was casted for the role. I even relate to Pateizia a bit since she had a brain tumor — which I was diagnosed with this year and is still undergoing medication and treatment for. 

and what does it have to do the fact that she went to prison years after the murder with her remorse or lack of it? she obviously didn't want to get caught, but the suicide attempt was a certain sign of remorse for sure, not just "woe is me" she ruined her life completely, as gaga said "when you kill someone else you really kill yourself"
Maurizio wasn't innocent either at all, he abandoned her and her children, mistreated her and gaslight her, you don't have to feel sorry for her, just understand the dark things ppl like her can do when the're pushed to the edge.

You judged gaga for a very possible thing Patrizia could've thought "what have i done?", you've been watching stuff since you knew gaga was casted, well, gaga was researching her long before that and she's allowed to have her feelings and opinions about the character, Patrizia in real life have bittered and constructed a even strong shield from her years in prison, of course she would lie and mask her past feelings. Gaga has constructed the character only based in facts, not biased opinions, she made her real, and feeling 0 remorse, never, not one time to keep a strong personality is not real.

 

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1 hour ago, enissa11 said:

You judged gaga for a very possible thing Patrizia could've thought "what have i done?"

You took that way too seriously. I’m not judging Gaga one bit. She already said she wanted to make this about “the woman” and not “the murderer”. Maurizio wasn’t innocent either, I agree. Because of her he’s not around to give his opinion on the events so what we have is her words, which sometimes rings true and sometimes not, and the words of the police investigating and her friends and the family. All of them with opinions colored by their own feelings and moods. None of them unbiased. Patrizia came off as ruthless to me after Maurizio’s death in the way she behaved. Time makes things less sharp and blurs the edges though so when she talks about it now it could very well be perceived as she’s regretful and the old woman she is today would most certainly not have him murdered. I can see both sides. When Gaga talks about seeing when Patrizia lies and not, it’s shifting back and forth in all her interviews. She’s very colored by her mood. After two months of sick leave and watching her constantly I heard Patrizia’s voice inside my head even when I wasn’t listening to her. I was thinking in her voice. She gets under your skin. 
 

And about the dark:

We’re absolutely on the same page here. I can walk you through my own darkness which nearly pushed me into ending my own life before I figured out what was wrong. If the doctors had not discovered I had a tumor I would be on anti-depressants and still in so much pain I couldn’t function as a person. That does things to one’s mind. 

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1 hour ago, enissa11 said:

she ruined her life completely, as gaga said "when you kill someone else you really kill yourself"

She ruined HER life. Exactly. That was my point. 

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On 11/5/2021 at 4:14 AM, moonsago said:

I know it might sound crazy to some people but I actually believe her. There are multiple actors that have talked about how when you get really immersed in the character that you are playing, your brain starts tricking you into believing the fake emotions you play out. It’s not the same thing but, as someone that struggles with overthinking, I have managed multiple times to manufacture feelings that have affected my well being in a real way. Method acting is actually very scary and lowkey schizophrenic ( excuse me if I offend anybody but I can’t think of another word to describe it ) if you ask me, one can really get lost in it and need therapy after playing a role. 

Yes! I recently did an acting course and I'm very new to it. But, during one of the lessons, I actually experienced becoming someone else (the character) and his emotions taking over me (which is, in my book, good acting because you should try to fake as little as possible). 

So, I really do believe her! She's a well-trained professional and has the tools to do this. It's weird what acting (the craft) can do with your brain and feelings.

She's sooo talented omg 😊

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21 hours ago, LaLuna said:

She probably heard of Method acting and went "Yup, I'm doing this" 

Heard of? Gaga studied METHOD ACTING at the Lee Strasberg Theatre & Film Institute for 10 YEARS! 🙂

She loved it. In fact, she tweeted about it in 2009. 

"I went to acting school for almost ten years growing up. I went to Strasberg Theatre downtown." - Lady Gaga, Young Actors at Strasberg Alumna

Strasberg's Method requires actors to go beyond emotional memory, using a technique called "substitution" to temporarily BECOME the characters they are portraying. 

Her acting teacher, who was on the HoG set, was herself taught by Lee Strasberg.

Al Pacino, her 81-year-old co-star, studied Method Acting under Strasberg, whom he credited with helping launch his career. There's a method to the madness, I guess.  

Remember: Gaga is not a veteran actor. This is her SECOND leading role and her first playing a real person... It's exciting for her!

She wouldn't be nearly as excited if HoG was her 10th movie. She'd switch in and out of character like her veteran co-stars! Where's the fun in that? 🙂

https://strasberg.edu/blog/lstfi-alumna-lady-gaga-taps-into-the-lee-strasberg-method/  (October 12, 2015)

https://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/2705810016?lang=en

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On 11/4/2021 at 11:23 PM, badfaith said:

I feel oddly weird cause I always follow and copy the mannerisms of the protagonists of shows I watch. So imagine me being obsessed with The Good Doctor for a while  probably not a good idea in hindsight 

I always feel like entertainment influences us to a greater degree than many would admit even if its subcontiously

 

Cant help wonder to what extent ppl in the last 10 years becoming more rash, quickly angry over nothing (like road rage), agressive in arguments during disagreements etc...

 

It didnt used to be half as bad even 10 or 15 years ago. Yes life in many ways has becone more stressful but i wonder if the nornalization of violence in video games and movies or tv shows is also contributing to ppls emotional responses and they dont even realize it

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On 11/6/2021 at 5:40 PM, enissa11 said:

and what does it have to do the fact that she went to prison years after the murder with her remorse or lack of it? she obviously didn't want to get caught, but the suicide attempt was a certain sign of remorse for sure, not just "woe is me" she ruined her life completely, as gaga said "when you kill someone else you really kill yourself"

 

Attempting suicide while in prison doesn't mean she did it because of remorse for killing him – feeling sad about ruining your life is not remorse. Remorse is being sorry that she did it, and a suicide attempt is not evidence of that. Sadness maybe sure, or perhaps she did it for attention – we don't know. But it's not, by itself, evidence that she's sorry.

This is a person who refused parole in 2011 because it would have required her to get a job, and who sued her own daughters for money after being released from prison for killing their father. 

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3 minutes ago, fghtrfd said:

Attempting suicide while in prison doesn't mean she did it because of remorse for killing him – feeling sad about ruining your life is not remorse. Remorse is being sorry that she did it, and a suicide attempt is not evidence of that. 

she definitely felt sorry for what she did because it ruined her life too, that's the whole point, that's still remorse, "what have i done?" again as gaga put it ·"when you kill someone else you really kill yourself"

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On 11/6/2021 at 2:32 PM, Juniper said:

You took that way too seriously. I’m not judging Gaga one bit. She already said she wanted to make this about “the woman” and not “the murderer”. Maurizio wasn’t innocent either, I agree. Because of her he’s not around to give his opinion on the events so what we have is her words, which sometimes rings true and sometimes not, and the words of the police investigating and her friends and the family. All of them with opinions colored by their own feelings and moods. None of them unbiased. Patrizia came off as ruthless to me after Maurizio’s death in the way she behaved. Time makes things less sharp and blurs the edges though so when she talks about it now it could very well be perceived as she’s regretful and the old woman she is today would most certainly not have him murdered. I can see both sides. When Gaga talks about seeing when Patrizia lies and not, it’s shifting back and forth in all her interviews. She’s very colored by her mood. After two months of sick leave and watching her constantly I heard Patrizia’s voice inside my head even when I wasn’t listening to her. I was thinking in her voice. She gets under your skin. 
 

And about the dark:

We’re absolutely on the same page here. I can walk you through my own darkness which nearly pushed me into ending my own life before I figured out what was wrong. If the doctors had not discovered I had a tumor I would be on anti-depressants and still in so much pain I couldn’t function as a person. That does things to one’s mind. 

i agree with all your points, and we're definitely on the same page, but to be fair i think you did judge her by implying she's full of sh*t when you said if she was "truly" Patrizia she wouldn't have say that, i think it could've been a very possible scenario...