Billy Porter hits out at Vogue

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Vogue is in the business of selling magazines, the Harry Styles cover was an excellent move that proved very successful for them. That issue had to go for a second print run and bumped Vogue’s subscription sales by 40,000 that month. It sold out almost instantly when it was restocked on online newsstands, I couldn’t get hold of it even from Conde Nast’s own online store despite it being restocked multiple times. It’s still going for upwards of £50 on eBay.

I can understand the issue Billy is talking about, but at the same time I wish people would stop looking to fashion magazines to be the beacon of political correctness - they’re about what’s popular and what sells.

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Dont see why race matters here but for the rest I get whats hes saying, though Harry aint straight is he 

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"harry isn't straight"

he's constantly dodged the question whilst continuing to capitalise on the buzz of using queer fashion in the mainstream. it's a pretty well defined trend of straight or bi men not revealing their true identity to avoid being criticised but also capitalising on all the profitable parts of it. if he is straight, then perhaps he can stop making literal money from the buzz around his sexuality.

if he came out as straight tomorrow, you know for a fact he'd suddenly gain a lot less attention/buzz, and he knows that.

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Lmao not “I’m digging Harry” then drags him hahahahaha

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Billy Porter- who often wears dresses at red carpet events - explained  'I created the conversation [about non-binary fashion] and yet Vogue still put Harry Styles, a straight white man, in a dress on their cover for the first time.

 

It's great that Billy started the conversation but this is like somebody saying 'I did it first so that means nobody else can'. He should be happy that something he started is catching on. 

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26 minutes ago, thatfoxyfeeling said:

Yeah go off Billy cause you haven’t been wearing dresses to red carpets for attention.

Of course he did, it's the attention our community needs

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17 minutes ago, enissa11 said:

no, he's straight ally, he's never define himself as queer or bi, it's just that there have been a lot of speculation scrutiny of his sexuality, and gay men obsessed with him, just like Shawn Mendez etc

This is an article where Harry talks about his sexuality: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/dec/14/harry-styles-sexual-ambiguity-dating-normals-rocking-a-dress

This is a part of the article:

- There’s a popular perception, I say, that you don’t define as straight. The lyrics to your songs, the clothes you choose to wear, even the sleeve of your new record – all of these things get picked apart for clues that you’re bisexual. Has anyone ever asked you though?

- “Um. I guess I haaaaave been asked? But, I dunno. Why?”

- You mean, why ask the question?

- “Yeah, I think I do mean that. It’s not like I’m sitting on an answer, and protecting it, and holding it back. It’s not a case of: I’m not telling you cos I don’t want to tell you. It’s not: ooh this is mine and it’s not yours.”

- What is it then?

- “It’s: who cares? Does that make sense? It’s just: who cares?”

He never says what his sexuality is, so sure, I guess you could conclude that he's just a straight ally, but you could also conclude that he's queer. 

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9 minutes ago, Melancholia said:

"harry isn't straight"

he's constantly dodged the question whilst continuing to capitalise on the buzz of using queer fashion in the mainstream. it's a pretty well defined trend of straight or bi men not revealing their true identity to avoid being criticised but also capitalising on all the profitable parts of it. if he is straight, then perhaps he can stop making literal money from the buzz around his sexuality.

if he came out as straight tomorrow, you know for a fact he'd suddenly gain a lot less attention/buzz, and he knows that.

He's dodged the question because he also doesn't need to disclose his sexaulity. No one should be "forced" to come out if they don't want to, and at the end of the day, his sexuality is his business and no one else's. 

I understand what you're saying about straight men capitalizing on queer fashion, but I don't think that's Harry at all tbh.

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1 minute ago, Reality said:

He's dodged the question because he also doesn't need to disclose his sexaulity. No one should be "forced" to come out if they don't want to, and at the end of the day, his sexuality is his business and no one else's. 

I understand what you're saying about straight men capitalizing on queer fashion, but I don't think that's Harry at all tbh.

I totally get what you’re saying, but it’s just a little odd from my perspective only cause I’ve always tried to be proud of my sexuality and not necessarily define myself with it, but instead celebrate it so that those who are struggling with the same things find comfort in knowing there are others like them and that you can be yourself and not have to hide anything to be accepted. But I understand that not everyone is like that and some people would rather be private. I think that’s why I like Lil Nas X so much because he just doesn’t care and is so open about it, especially considering how homophobic the rap community can be.

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I get what he's saying. Harry is very open when it comes to his thoughts on gender norms in fashion so I guess that's why the chose him?

Personally I agree with Billy in that I think it'd be better to have someone more open about the subjects that surround gender neutral fashion for their first gender neutral shoot since Harry is kind of cagey when it comes to talking about sexuality and gender outside of fashion.

Harry's a great choice but not someone I'd make the face of it.

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46 minutes ago, bionic said:

I would be salty too if my gender-forward fashion was sidelined in favor of a watered-down version by a straight white man

Porter did what he did, it was eventful, done. Harry Styles doing it was the next step, and it was even more revolutionary. If more straight men embraced their queer side publicly and normalized male on male affection, the world would be a much better place. Not recognizing the power this has is hypocrisy at its finest.

He helped open a door, nobody’s taking that away. If he really did care about the cause, he’d celebrate that Vogue cover. And yet, here he is, whining over the fact this wasn’t him in the spotlight.

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2 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

Porter did what he did, it was eventful, done. Harry Styles doing it was the next step, and it was even more revolutionary. If more straight men embraced their queer side publicly and normalized male on male affection, the world would be a much better place. Not recognizing the power this has is hypocrisy at its finest.

It only has power if it pays tribute to its origins– which Harry doesn't/didn't do.

Its profiting on suffering of the oppressed and being praised for being groundbreaking when others have been discriminated for the reasons and you (Harry) can take it off and sleep soundly at night

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4 minutes ago, bionic said:

It only has power if it pays tribute to its origins– which Harry doesn't/didn't do.

Its profiting on suffering of the oppressed and being praised for being groundbreaking when others have been discriminated for the reasons and you (Harry) can take it off and sleep soundly at night

Shouldn’t we celebrate the fact we’re now living in a society where people like Harry Styles can do it freely? Wasn’t this the whole point of these decades of fights and suffering?

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45 minutes ago, Reality said:

He never says what his sexuality is, so sure, I guess you could conclude that he's just a straight ally, but you could also conclude that he's queer. 

we're a dissent community, in this world you straight until you get out of the closet, that's the reality, we need more representation in the media, you can't conclude he's queer if he doesn't says so and give up the privileges of straight ppl. maybe he f*cks some guys in private but in the end what does it matter really?

40 minutes ago, Reality said:

No one should be "forced" to come out if they don't want to

yes you're completely right but also let's not put these people in the places that deserve the ones that really have the courage to live their truth in this judgemental and discriminatory social system, that's billy's point.

 

40 minutes ago, Reality said:

I understand what you're saying about straight men capitalizing on queer fashion, but I don't think that's Harry at all tbh.

i think he is actually...