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Johnny Depp: "no one is safe" in cancel culture


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RichAssPiss
1 hour ago, Blastertoyo said:

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the recent wave of pop stars are all kids who had yet to or had freshly turned 18. 

they aren’t as large of a liability since they either haven’t made that many mistakes yet and/or aren’t able to be held accountable for said mistakes since they’re new adults 

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after all you can’t reasonably cancel someone who hasn’t or just turned 18 

So....you think "cancel culture" invented teen pop in 2021? Got it.

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Naak Le Vaar

Suddenly Depp is the bad guy now? I always thought his wife was the instigator? He's right about this anyways. There's being held responsible for your actions and then there's the cancel culture mob mentality that can randomly kick drop your name. There's people out there trying to cancel Gaga for, get this, being racist bc she "supports" black face and is using the lgbt fanbase for her personal gain. At this point cancel culture is the opposite end of the spectrum of being a stan, both mentalities are without thinking logically, just worshipping or trying to take down an idol. 

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VoldeLorde2
1 hour ago, Economy said:

I disagree it goes way beyond that.

 

Theres times where "cancelling" someone is about accountability but more than half the times its bored twitter users with nothing better to do with their lives blowing things way out of proportion

 

If its not that serious leave it alone. Celebs are human too of course they arent gonna be perfect all the time. We dont have to nit pick everytime they fail to use the best wording in something or they did something without thinking, it happens. Not every molehill has to become a mountain

 

If its from 15 or 20 years ago... unless its somethng super serious like rape or murder I also see no reason to even bring it up now

I’m not talking about bored twitter users. I’m talking about the people that have said/done some awful **** and decide to cover it up instead of take responsibility and apologizing. It’s sad because these celebs have huge followings and when they do awful things, their audience either defends them or drops them. Now, fans are more likely to drop them, and the ones that stay and defend their fave cry “cancel culture.” It’s immature and embarrassing. 

And I don’t think it matters how long ago something was said. If you’re an adult saying racist/homophobic/transphobic/etc. things, you’re just garbage and you need repercussions. Whether that’s loss of fans or roles, then so be it. It’s like the James Gunn stuff tweeting about little boys—SUPER creepy, and I won’t watch a movie of his again. But hollywood doesn’t care and will still hire him despite those comments.

That’s why I say cancel culture isn’t real. If it was, no one would be working in the movie business. We all have dirt, we’ve all made mistakes. It matters how we acknowledge those mistakes. If I get called out on something and say, “Oh, I was so young. It was so long ago. Y’all are just trying to cancel me!” That 1. doesn’t acknowledge the issue and 2. shows no accountability/lesson learned. You can turn a “cancelling” into a teaching moment for not only yourself but others by saying, “I made a mistake. Let me acknowledge it so you don’t make the same one.” 

I don’t pray on the downfall of people, but I want everyone to do better. This world is going down the toilet, and I don’t like seeing people fighting. Admitting wrongs is the simplest way to stop all this “cancel culture.” People need to be less arrogant and allow criticism.  

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YUJIfushiguro
1 hour ago, High King said:

You can’t even beat your wife anymore without people thinking you’re a “bad” person. Life is so hard now :(

if u actually look into it ull see depp the one being abused. she was an extremely manipulative and toxic person that brought out the worst in depp.

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YUJIfushiguro

Cancel culture needs to be cancelled its way more about virtue signalling and ruining a person life then it is about making someone take accountability and changing. Majority of the time the idea of being cancelled is just a twitter thing anyway but it has seriously impacted peoples jobs and careers over occasionally. Have these people never known people close to them to do crappy things? do you all really think your above making mistakes?. Ruining someone's life isn't equivalent to one or to crappy things some1 has said. Are we eventually not gonna let any1 learn to be a decent person. I just hope this culture doesn't grow more then it has and seep into real life more often. its much more toxic then what half the things people are being "cancelled" for

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Economy
39 minutes ago, VoldeLorde2 said:

 

And I don’t think it matters how long ago something was said. If you’re an adult saying racist/homophobic/transphobic/etc. things, you’re just garbage and you need repercussions.

So what ur saying is if someone became more educated and enlightned they still have to be punished over what they said 20 years ago?

 

Talk about a grudge mentality :duck:

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2 hours ago, DanielM said:

I think our generation is still learning how to navigate in the online world. I just hope the next generation is more cautious about their actions, specifically online. We need to learn how to reduce our online footprint in order to not be surprised in the future with something written years ago. I know Depp's problem has nothing to do with a tweet misunderstood or whatever, but I feel like we all should start to educate ourselves and the next generation about leaving feelings and thoughts online. It can be a problem in the future in a way we are not ready to imagine now.  

I wholly agree with this. It needs to be a class taught in middle school, or somewhere around that time. A lot of people really just do not seem to grasp the fact that anything you put online will and can be used against you at any time :dom:

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mightyriverz
3 hours ago, VoldeLorde2 said:

cancel culture isn’t a thing. y’all just don’t want to see millionaires held accountable for their actions. 

actually, it is, and I myself have been a victim of it. I'm sueing the scheisse out of around 30 barbz who spread on twitter that I was racist for talking sh*t about their sh*tty idol, and went on to commit crimes against me such as leaking my nudes, sending death threats, etc. and I'm looking forward to watch each and every one of them get convicted.
speaking for myself, I think that anyone that does harm to someone or to a group of people should be held accountable. but I don't think attacking people online is going to solve anything. I can't think of a case that has actually had any positive impact on society and media other than Harvey Weinstein's.

Nike Manij, Kanye West, Jeffree Star, James Charles and many more have been cancelled and how has it affected their lives? Hiding behind a screen and a social media profile, people feel like they're entitled to do anything to anyone. All it takes is a group of people to dislike someone or what someone has said and then thousands of people are bashing you. So yeah, I do think it exists, and also it's subjective and selective. That's why it'll never work.

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mightyriverz

By the way, here in Brazil there's been a large group of people "cancelling" our president since 2015 at least, myself included. As you may notice, it didn't stop him from being elected. We need to discuss.

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gothicdream
1 hour ago, YUJIfushiguro said:

if u actually look into it ull see depp the one being abused. she was an extremely manipulative and toxic person that brought out the worst in depp.

Neither of them are innocent in this, afaik they both were abusive to each other.

But please don't ever blame a woman (or any victim) for "causing" someone to abuse them.

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PartySick
1 hour ago, YUJIfushiguro said:

if u actually look into it ull see depp the one being abused. she was an extremely manipulative and toxic person that brought out the worst in depp.

This is what I thought but I honestly never looked into it :spin:

I tend to believe we should leave those private matters private. Let Depp, his wife, and actually effected parties sort it out then the public can decide if they want to support his work or not afterwards.

It's the jumping to conclusions that does it for me. Take it from an MJ stan, an accusation means literally nothing :laughga: once everything is aired out, the facts are presented, and things are settled with the people involved, then you can make your own determinations and decide what you feel comfortable with.

But when people face widespread backlash because they did something blatantly stupid, that's not "cancel culture", that's called a consequence :laughga:

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YUJIfushiguro
1 hour ago, PartySick said:

This is what I thought but I honestly never looked into it :spin:

I tend to believe we should leave those private matters private. Let Depp, his wife, and actually effected parties sort it out then the public can decide if they want to support his work or not afterwards.

It's the jumping to conclusions that does it for me. Take it from an MJ stan, an accusation means literally nothing :laughga: once everything is aired out, the facts are presented, and things are settled with the people involved, then you can make your own determinations and decide what you feel comfortable with.

But when people face widespread backlash because they did something blatantly stupid, that's not "cancel culture", that's called a consequence :laughga:

yeah your entirely right that's def the most reasonable way to look at it I cant  argue against that really. because yeh realistically i dont know crap about the situation.

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Horny Chicken

I think in the near future cancel culture won’t be so unjust as more and more people start questioning it. Right now the people of the internet are just learning of the power they wield as consumers. Misuse it and we end up with a case like this one. 

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