gypsy101 5,453 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 minute ago, enissa11 said: when did i said that she "plagiarized" misery business? i said it INTERPOLATED the melodies and that's why they had to give them credict lol i disagree that it interpolates it though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enissa11 2,984 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, gypsy101 said: i disagree that it interpolates it though my god, now i ask you, did you really watched the video? you're using wrongly the term "interpolate" it doesn't mean every note has to align perfectly LOL, that's just copying a melody. you don't have to disagree anyway, it's a fact and that's why they gave paramore credit for interpolation. Mad Architect of Light Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainingOnMe 7,280 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Staryu17 said: You guys do realise this been going on for years right? Olivia ain't the only one to be "inspired". I mean - Treasure/Baby I'm yours Or even recent 7 rings/mine They know, they just choose to target Olivia because she's an easy target - 18 years old and a young artist. It's disgusting. Didn't expect anything else from this site though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinnitus15 51,658 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, flyaway said: Yeah, but then proceeded to share it on insta as a big achievement. Doesn't seem very nice of her and her agents. It doesn't come as a surprise from Taylor $wift who's always chasing money, but I expected more from Hayley. Why the “it doesn’t come as a surprise from Taylor”?I don’t find a problem to get credit on a song,whose writer literally said that she’s sampling..At the end of the day music industry is all about money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsy101 5,453 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, enissa11 said: my god, now i ask you, did you really watched the video? you're using wrongly the term "interpolate" it doesn't mean every note has to align perfectly LOL, that's just copying a melody. you don't have to disagree anyway, it's a fact and that's why they gave paramore credit for interpolation. yes i watched the video hence why i said i watched the video i disagree with whatever his definition of interpolation is and that it is a “fact” that they used it and that that’s why they gave the credit. they clearly gave the credit because of neanderthals on the internet not knowing wtf they’re talking about claiming the song rips off Misery Business when it obviously does not do that and they want to stave off that criticism and possible lawsuit by imo prematurely and inaccurately giving them credit when they deserve none. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 46 minutes ago, enissa11 said: they just used the same chord progression, it's not an interpolation, don't put it on the same bag, it is also similar to sympathy for the devil or a lot other 80's songs, gaga was literally condemned for not using the pop I V VI IV progression and making something different no one was doing that could only be traced from thirty years before in pop music, The Irony! In any case it interpolates I was born this way from the priest which she gave fully credit for I was just joking. People were just loving being hateful to Gaga. ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichAssPiss 4,993 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 She's going to be fine financially, and this is probably the right path career-wise. Fighting a lawsuit is expensive, and you will get dragged through the mud. This way she just gets one round of headlines and no one is angry at her, suing her, or badmouthing her in the press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkYou 352 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I haven't heard anything from her but f*** them all. The mainstream music scene is dead. They all sound the same. How in the world could they earn money from something they haven't touched. Let that girl have her money and move on. You have enough already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichAssPiss 4,993 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Also, I'd like to point out the fact that no one is doling out publishing to Elvis Costello means likely Taylor and Paramore both asked for this. Taylor stans were truly delusional insisting Olivia probably offered it spontaneously and Taylor would never ask for publishing, as if Taylor is not known to be litigious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enissa11 2,984 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, gypsy101 said: yes i watched the video hence why i said i watched the video i disagree with whatever his definition of interpolation is and that it is a “fact” that they used it and that that’s why they gave the credit. they clearly gave the credit because of neanderthals on the internet not knowing wtf they’re talking about claiming the song rips off Misery Business when it obviously does not do that and they want to stave off that criticism and possible lawsuit by imo prematurely and inaccurately giving them credit when they deserve none. it's not "his" definition, interpolation in music is literally means that you take a melody of a previous song and modify it a bit giving it new context and new lyrics or "interpolating" it. It end up not being a cover but also not really a new original song, that's what olivia did here or what ariana did with 7 rings though in her case she made it more evident, it might also be seen as a direct inspiration from other specific song. If none of his arguments putting the songs together and specifically naming the similarities between notes PLUS Olivia having to give them credit for interpolation are enough to convince you the artist of a massive label did not just succumb to a silly internet rant, then go off, nothing to do here Mad Architect of Light Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastertoyo 22,734 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, RichAssPiss said: Taylor stans were truly delusional insisting Olivia probably offered it spontaneously and Taylor would never ask for publishing, as if Taylor is not known to be litigious. It would have been actually iconic if Taylor issued a statement only charging Olivia $1 for the cruel summer situation truly best friend things please enlighten me to death Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXEENN 1,039 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 52 minutes ago, enissa11 said: If none of his arguments putting the songs together and specifically naming the similarities between notes PLUS Olivia having to give them credit for interpolation is enough to convince you the artist of a massive label did not just succumb to a silly internet rant, then go off, nothing to do here Okay why do you need to be that rude though? 🙄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enissa11 2,984 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 minute ago, snakes said: Okay why do you need to be that rude though? 🙄 oh, i'm sorry if was rude, really not my intention, i was just trying to make a point, but i understand, i'm sorry. Mad Architect of Light Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawrimamonster 1,115 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I’m with Elvis Costello on this one. I think Swift and Paramore overstepped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killa 17,891 Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I still think 50 percent royalties for paramore is completala unfair and disgusting from them. there simples arent enough elements to justify the 50%. The similarities start a bar before the chorus. Which id say is the Moment i can say for sure one is inspired by the other and not anu other 100 songs like these. overall the most important is that the songs have a complete new life. She does imitate the singers in the songs she draws inspiration, like going to a falsetto, aggressive tone or a Belt. Exactly like the inspiration. its more of a pastiche than a copy. and you guys jeep Talking about btw. Its not only the song, the whole álbum, gaga picks this and that from many influentes, from Lyrical content to vocal style, harmony and instrumentation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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