gagafanobvi 94 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 15 hours ago, elijahfan said: There already was a trans character in her 2014 novel, this isn't a new obsession of hers. People keep cancelling her but they don't even read her books, or her essay about trans issues in England. She isn't against trans people, but against a very specific type of activists that she fears might harm young queer people's journey of self discovery. I don't agree with everything she says and there's definitely room for debate, but I tried to understand where she was coming from because she's an intelligent woman whose views I value. I don't think there's one mean bone in her body, and she might have underestimated people's stupidity on social media. I'm glad she's unbothered and keeps on writing about whatever the **** she wants to write about. If this book is making her transphobic, then let's cancel Alfred Hitchcock or Brian de Palma for making films on similar subjects. I just wish people knew what they were talking about, or at least tried to educate themselves a bit more instead of just retweeting out-of-context statements. u forgot to consider that she was against a bill in canada that would ban conversion therapy. also her pen name "robert galbraith" is a conversion therapist who loved using electroshock therapy. jk rowling is pure evil, why are u defending her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franz Ferdinand 2,359 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Pennywise said: The length some of y'all go to defend a woman who is trying to marginalize trans people who are already marginalized to the point where their MURDER often goes un-investigated... She can THINK whatever the **** she wants. She can be as articulate as she wants. She can write the best essays ever. In fact, I think her writing IS very articulate. Her transphobic essay was actually very well written. This does not change the fact that she is still a transphobic piece of ****. Transphobia with fancy words and demagogy is still transphobia. Preach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennywise 36,080 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Brecht said: After GGD racists we have GGD transphobes why am I not surprised? They were always here, they just feel more emboldened by JKR's statements and are coming out of the woodwork I guess So long ggd, it was nice while it lasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,207 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 The fact that there’s a handful of transphobes in this thread pretending to play devil’s advocate in order to justify theirs and Jk’s bigotry... and watch, absolutely no consequences will ensue because they’re just “expressing an opinion” we love ignorant people! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie 2,518 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 And because of this stupid things twitter SJW will never be taken seriously you can cancelled whatever you want but just because YOU don't like, it doesn't mean no one should just because you say it. SJWs changes no ones mind and what it does is create more hate towards their believes than anything else What if tomorrow I see you again? Should I say that I used to love you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALGAYDO 35,207 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Eddie said: And because of this stupid things twitter SJW will never be taken seriously you can cancelled whatever you want but just because YOU don't like, it doesn't mean no one should just because you say it. SJWs changes no ones mind and what it does is create more hate towards their believes than anything else Why do you have more anger towards people upset about transphobia than actual transphobia? kinda makes it seem like you agree with Jk’s views Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, gagafanobvi said: u forgot to consider that she was against a bill in canada that would ban conversion therapy. also her pen name "robert galbraith" is a conversion therapist who loved using electroshock therapy. jk rowling is pure evil, why are u defending her Wow. Why I didnt know about this? Did no one asked her about this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
felipi4546 23 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Florin said: Wow. Why I didnt know about this? Did no one asked her about this? JK Rowling chose her alter ego of Robert Galbraith by conflating the name of her political hero Robert F Kennedy and her childhood fantasy name "Ella Galbraith" Source: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/jul/24/jk-rowling-robert-galbraith-harry-potter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
felipi4546 23 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 And the book isn't transphobic, stop falling for clickbait articles. https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/j-k-rowling-s-latest-novel-isn-t-transphobic- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 27,499 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 5 hours ago, MJHolland said: She literally used the word "pandemic" to describe transgenderism. And you're over here being like aw im sorry if trans people were hurt by the interpretation of her words. JK Rowling is hot human transphobic garbage and so is anyone else that still supporters her. I've been reading this woman's words for as long as I knew how to read, and I refuse to believe there was any malicious agenda behind her tweets. Was it clever to voice those touchy concerns on social media in this day and age? No, because it definitely hurt the very people she didn't mean to bother at all in the first place. I myself had the hardest time to get where she was coming from at first, but she elaborated, gave her reasons and clarified whom her statements were directed to. Do I think she got the full picture? No. Does she have the right to make mistakes? Hell yeah, like you, like me, like everybody else. That's what makes us human, and unfortunately today we cancel or even virtually kill any person who suddenly commits the slightest outrage. I do have a problem with that, I think a society that blocks discussion is an unhealthy one and I'll gladly remain a garbage person if that's enough to make me one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 27,499 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Kirigiri said: Maybe the transexual-killer in that book turns out to be like Dexter, evil but also multilayered and slightly good too. Like in American Horror Story where evil people turn out to be not thaaat evil over time, once we start to understand them and their past. I just don't really understand this hysteria over a piece of fiction I believe it's actually just a cross-dresser. People confusing cross-dressing with transsexuality in this debate is actually pretty offensive in itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 27,499 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Twitter is today's Inquisition, apparently. I guess we haven't changed as a society since the Middle-Ages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 56 minutes ago, elijahfan said: I've been reading this woman's words for as long as I knew how to read, and I refuse to believe there was any malicious agenda behind her tweets. Was it clever to voice those touchy concerns on social media in this day and age? No, because it definitely hurt the very people she didn't mean to bother at all in the first place. I myself had the hardest time to get where she was coming from at first, but she elaborated, gave her reasons and clarified whom her statements were directed to. Do I think she got the full picture? No. Does she have the right to make mistakes? Hell yeah, like you, like me, like everybody else. That's what makes us human, and unfortunately today we cancel or even virtually kill any person who suddenly commits the slightest outrage. I do have a problem with that, I think a society that blocks discussion is an unhealthy one and I'll gladly remain a garbage person if that's enough to make me one. You’re right. You are refusing to believe. Thanks for admitting that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Imagine thinking being a consistent bigot is a mistake and not a damming personality trait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elijahfan 27,499 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, MJHolland said: You’re right. You are refusing to believe. Thanks for admitting that. Enjoy your witch-hunt, I guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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